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Old 07-31-2011, 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Slow911TT68Tip
My Car is at Champion and given the fact I am virtually guarenteed 900 WHP++ and close to that in TQ (close to 50% of that starting at ~ 3500 RPM's) I am perfectly happy. I wonder why Porsche went with the VTG design when they could have gone elsewhere?
for 500ps is working good, Porsche was always close with old school KKK which you cant compare with gt series.

I heard next generation will run without vtg's
 
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Converted 997 GT3 RS/TT dyno to ft-lbs and compared to Champion.

 
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With due respect it will be interesting to see the dynographs of my build versus the dynograph you have attached. I must believe that the ported heads, additional work such as increased displacement, more efficient windage, the custom fuel system, CF Intake Manifold, and custom connecting rods, among just a few of the changes applied to no other than my build will change the graph. The proof will be in the pudding and that day is rapidly approaching - I have great faith the results will be astounding or I could be wrong, and well, eat crow.

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Converted 997 GT3 RS/TT dyno to ft-lbs and compared to Champion.
 

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Originally Posted by Slow911TT68Tip
With due respect it will be interesting to se the dynographs of my build versus the dynograph you have attached. I must believe that the ported heads, additional work such as increased displacement, more efficient windage, the fuel system, and custom connecting rods, among just a few of the changes applied to no other than my build will change the graph. The proof will be in the pudding and that day is rapidly approaching - I have great faith the results will be astounding or I could be wrong, and well, eat crow.
I agree. I just plot them for 'entertainment' value, not suggesting one thing over another. Karol's car is highly modded but problem with his posts is that he never gets into specifics as to what he has done with his mods. Noboby even knows exactly what turbos he is running (at least I don't). He likes to leave everyone guessing, that's his style. So please take these curves for they they are worth... I'm sure your car will be a terror on the road.
 
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I agree. I just plot them for 'entertainment' value, not suggesting one thing over another. Karol's car is highly modded but problem with his posts is that he never gets into specifics as to what he has done with his mods. Noboby even knows exactly what turbos he is running (at least I don't). He likes to leave everyone guessing, that's his style. So please take these curves for they they are worth... I'm sure your car will be a terror on the road.

Yes I understand but they do represent a fairly accurate view of a "standard" build. I view upgrades in a light that each and every change will hopefully bring a positive change. Whether it be 1-3% or 5-10% it is an improvement. If you look at the CF Intake Manifolds which measured out to an improved flow, the additon of the Guards ATB Dif, the pistons and the coatings used. All of this plus what was previously mentioned will make a difference and theoretically should make a huge difference in the positive. My aspirations are just to have fun with it. To tell you the truth I am very excited about the suspension changes. I also want to look into sequential shifting, Guards is developing a system and SQS(?) is certainly established as a good choice. This should all be fun - thats why we do it .
 
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Originally Posted by Slow911TT68Tip
My Car is at Champion and given the fact I am virtually guarenteed 900 WHP++ and close to that in TQ (close to 50% of that starting at ~ 3500 RPM's) I am perfectly happy. I wonder why Porsche went with the VTG design when they could have gone elsewhere?

slow , i really want you to feel happy and am sure you are , because your car in CMS , i want to know something please , are you saying you will reach 900whp with stock cams ??? or its upgraded cams ??

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slow , i really want you to feel happy and am sure you are , because your car in CMS , i want to know something please , are you saying you will reach 900whp with stock cams ??? or its upgraded cams ??

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No upgraded cams but everything else I have mentioned above plus modified crank shaft. They have already hit over 800WHP but under 900 on a totally stock engine. We will know the exact #'s in about 5-6 weeks. We will 1st break in the engine carefully do to the Cast Iron sleeves and then retune for additional break-in for a period and then a final tune. I will hit 875 or maybe 925....only time will tell.
 

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No upgraded cams but everything else I have mentioned above plus modified crank shaft. They have already hit well over 800WHP but under 900 on a totally stock engine.
ahaa , well h hope you get what you want , but in My opinion i think its hard to reach 900whp with stock cam , because your engine will rev max 7500rpm and i do not think its Enough to get 900whp !!!
anyway its just my opinion ,

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Originally Posted by ysfg35
ahaa , well h hope you get what you want , but in My opinion i think its hard to reach 900whp with stock cam , because your engine will rev max 7500rpm and i do not think its Enough to get 900whp !!!
anyway its just my opinion ,

again , good luck bro

Our Rev target is ~ 7750-7850, maybe more...............but time will tell.

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Our Rev target is ~ 7750-7850, maybe more...............but time will tell.

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awesome bro ..
 
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awesome bro ..

ysfg34:

There are some things going on behind the scenes that I will not divulge as I have been sworn to secrecy. I will tell you the 900+ mark is viewed as very attainable safely and with a full warranty.

I really cant say much more and never will. CMS has treated me very well and put their heart and soul into this build. I owe them the secrecy they have requested till they say otherwise.

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Well am sure from what i saw and read , that you are in safe hands ! I will wait your project till it finished !!

Thanks slow , u deserve the best
 
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Originally Posted by TTdude
Converted 997 GT3 RS/TT dyno to ft-lbs and compared to Champion.

you must be joking me !!!
you can't compare my dyno with dyno that takes max 10sec....



vtg car would burned on my tuner dyno after 15sec...

btw it's stopped @ 6400rpm as it's 300km/h
 

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Originally Posted by 997 GT3 RS/TT
you must be joking me !!!
you can't compare my dyno with dyno that takes max 10sec....



vtg car would burned on my tuner dyno after 15sec...

btw it's stopped @ 6400rpm as it's 300km/h

 

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Originally Posted by 997 GT3 RS/TT
you must be joking me !!!
you can't compare my dyno with dyno that takes max 10sec....



vtg car would burned on my tuner dyno after 15sec...

btw it's stopped @ 6400rpm as it's 300km/h
You post'em, I'll compare them. Let the comments fly!
 
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