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if you just want to build a drag car, there are many better choices. A 997tts is a very expensive platform from which to start.
 
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there should be a way for tuners to lift the PDK torque limiters just like they do in M DCT, GTRs and VW DSG

no reason why a little bit more power cant be squeezed out
 
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Originally Posted by prodigymb
there should be a way for tuners to lift the PDK torque limiters just like they do in M DCT, GTRs and VW DSG

no reason why a little bit more power cant be squeezed out
There is a way to do it, but there is unfortunately a reason not to.

The PDK clutches just won't handle any more....
 
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Originally Posted by Tom@Champion
There is a way to do it, but there is unfortunately a reason not to.

The PDK clutches just won't handle any more....
I hear ya. Similar things were said about VW/Audi DSG when that came out. Limit was said to be 258 crank torque but since people have pushed them to 450 crank torque without issues. Same with GTR just different #s that I don't remember.

Regardless someone should get cracking on the clutchpacks because you are correct to an extent. There is probably not to much headroom in the stock clutch packs especially with longevity factored in.
 
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Originally Posted by prodigymb
I hear ya. Similar things were said about VW/Audi DSG when that came out. Limit was said to be 258 crank torque but since people have pushed them to 450 crank torque without issues. Same with GTR just different #s that I don't remember.

Regardless someone should get cracking on the clutchpacks because you are correct to an extent. There is probably not to much headroom in the stock clutch packs especially with longevity factored in.
There's nowhere near that much room. There IS a little bit...but not quite much. The problem with the PDK unit is that it's a non-servicable unit. Unlike GTR's and DSG's that can be opened whenever clutches need replacing, the PDK needs to be cut open. That's why Porsche doesn't repair PDK's, they replace them when there's any signs of issues.
 
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That's why Porsche doesn't repair PDK's, they replace them when there's any signs of issues.


 
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My tune and catback only 997.1 Tip ran 10.40(perfect conditions)

I would think a PDK car could run better. Am I wrong?
 
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Originally Posted by Tom@Champion
You could install hardware that's good for 1000whp in the PDK car, and it's not going to make it any bit faster then a PDK car with 550whp.

The PDK control system will limit the amount of power the car can actually produce. So whether it's technically got 1000hp or 550hp....it's the only power put to the wheels is going to be what the PDK control unit allows.

This is why you see such consistent results from PDK equipped cars. 10.9, 11.1, 10.8...you'll be right in that same range no matter what hardware you add to the car.
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There is a way to do it, but there is unfortunately a reason not to.

The PDK clutches just won't handle any more....
Originally Posted by Tom@Champion
There's nowhere near that much room. There IS a little bit...but not quite much. The problem with the PDK unit is that it's a non-servicable unit. Unlike GTR's and DSG's that can be opened whenever clutches need replacing, the PDK needs to be cut open. That's why Porsche doesn't repair PDK's, they replace them when there's any signs of issues.
So have you given up on your endeavors to address these issues with the PDK?
 
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So have you given up on your endeavors to address these issues with the PDK?
Oh no, absolutely not.

Our previous test car (the "War Admiral" car seen in Excellence) was returned to stock and sold, and we moved the development and testing program onto a new test mule. The new is receiving quite a lot of upgrades aside from the PDK so once it's road-worthy, we'll get back to testing full steam, and regular updates will resume. Whether we like it or not, the PDK is really the future for Porsche, so quitting is not an option. We will get it to work. The only question is ultimately how much power can we get it to hold.
 
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Good to hear, Tom. Your threads are always good reads and the PDK development is fascinating stuff. If these cars are capable of such awesome performance out of the box with the PDK, it is exciting to think what they may be capable of with 100+ additional wheel horsepower.
 
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Good to hear, Tom. Your threads are always good reads and the PDK development is fascinating stuff. If these cars are capable of such awesome performance out of the box with the PDK, it is exciting to think what they may be capable of with 100+ additional wheel horsepower.
haha agreed! Every time I use launch control on a Turbo or Turbo S, I think...."my God!! Imagine this with 700 at the wheels instead of 475!!"..
 
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Yes! The original poster is local to us. I want to know where he is running that car and not getting kicked out!! Everyone I go I get one run and they boot me for no bar...
Mike,
Ive made a 10 sec pass in my 997 at Etown and they didnt say anything. Im sure the next time they will though
They need to lower the Roll bar again. I mean how many people are willing to weld in a cage in there Porsche???
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I just had Switzer tune my 2011 Turbo S and it feels great. Couldnt hook for **** at the track but it still ran 11.01 with a 1.9 60ft. lol I'd contact Switzer for the tune.
 
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Ive made a 10 sec pass in my 997 at Etown and they didnt say anything. Im sure the next time they will though
They need to lower the Roll bar again. I mean how many people are willing to weld in a cage in there Porsche???
Bobby
Were you renting the track, or was an open test and tune event?
 
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i did 10.9-11.0 passes at atco last week and no one said anything
 
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