If you got 18k, the switzer vgt700kit is vgt perfection. thing drives like stock until u pin it, you can get a migrain from the torque. I had that kit and a gt3071r protomotive kit and i liked the vgt car more, even though the proto car was faster. That 700 car was just fun, in every way. I hit 10.80@ 136mph first pass then would drop down to 133mph all night. Car was *** close to stock *** your going to get. I would imagin most of the 700hp vgt kits are close, so take your pick, but moded vgt,s is a must! And the easiest way to make big power with stock like drivability.

 

And if there is another kit making 700/750 and running 10.80@133mph for 18k, please let me know who, im sure there are, i just want to see it. That Switzer exhaust is really something to look at, and i think the nicest exhaust out there. I have an R911 and i still think about that yellow vgt700, i loved that thing, was like a bike.

 

Jdmuscle,

I see you are from NY. Our company is located two hours south of NYC.

We are full service late model Porsche tuner focusing on the Turbo models. We have a Mustang Chassis Dyno, onsite Fabrication, install capability, and a direct line to GIAC for software needs. Anything you have read in this thread, we can do. From wheels spacers all the way up to 750hp turbo kits.

If you don't mind, shoot me an email with your phone number. I would like to call and discuss our services.

Mike@AWE-Tuning.com

I look forward to hearing from you.

 

Nice pics!

 

I have to agree with Tiago on this one Lou. In our experience, a stock 480 Crank HP turbo will put down about 420-430 at the wheels, depending on the type of dyno used. With a good exhaust system and ECU flash, you would see approximately 70-80 hp at the wheels increase, which puts you around 500 at the wheels.

From there, intercoolers, y-pipes, larger TB and plenum will yield nominal increases in power and definite improvements in consistency, but nothing close to 600 at the wheels, I just don't think that's possible.

Our 65mm Billet VTG's, which are probably the largest flowing 65mm VTG's out there, will yield 600 at the wheels on pump gas, a little more on race fuel. To get that without turbos is just not possible. The stock turbos just can't possibly flow that much.

 

Tom, you defiantly know what you are talking about -truth ,all truth and nothing but the truth .
I sincerely appropriate posts like yours ,Thanks

 

we have two vgt cars that run very low 6s . 60 to 130 . And make 590 to 600 4wheel hp on a mainline dyno.Both tuned by proto . Both have stock y pipes and tb s. and one eveN has stock intercoolers . Sometimes less is more

 

Are those cars running stock VTG's or upgraded? With all due respect, to get even close to that HP on stock turbos, and especially with stock intercoolers, is risking serious damage to the hardware on those two cars.

 

All due respect to those running said setups, but the less is more philosophy has been known to cause issues. Pushing stock hardware into a region of inefficiency can cause serious issues.

 

Both cars have modded turbos . and run e85 . We have gone over data logs with todd and are very pleased with results .

 

haha you left out those two little details...lol

I thought we were talking stock turbos that's why I was like "whoa!"...haha

 

LOL this place has been boring . Had to add a lil excitement . PS thank you for advice on springs . They work great

 

Can u elaborate on that Neil - what du mean by stock hardwear and what r the issues.

 

Do they need injectos or a pump upgrade to run E85?

Can 997s have a 93 map and E85 map?

 

With vgts you can get away with just changing injectors . the stock pumps run out a lil over 600 whp on e85 . whats on your mind joe lol