New 997 Turbo buyer. Help needed on Over Rev / Ignitions
#1
New 997 Turbo buyer. Help needed on Over Rev / Ignitions
I am currently looking at picking up my first 997 Turbo and its had about $20,000 in engine upgrades taking it to 600-650BHP
I was warned about Over Rev on these cars as well as other bits and pieces so requested the computer printout of the Ingitions and would love some feedback.. Should I not worry or should I run?
The car has also had the RPM levels increased as was explained to me so thats why there are quite a few Ingitions in levels 1 and 2.
I was warned about Over Rev on these cars as well as other bits and pieces so requested the computer printout of the Ingitions and would love some feedback.. Should I not worry or should I run?
The car has also had the RPM levels increased as was explained to me so thats why there are quite a few Ingitions in levels 1 and 2.
#2
Most will say walk away based on the report. Range 5 revs are usually are no nos however it seems it happened several hours ago. With a rev limiter increase usually of 500RPM you can void rev 1 and 2 over ignitions. Do a search on the forum you will find many threads on this.
#3
TRhe range 5 was at 263 hours and the car is now on 657. So it was in the first 1/3 of its life. Probably done when they were tuning it..
What do you mean re voiding rev 1 and 2 over ignitions?
What do you mean re voiding rev 1 and 2 over ignitions?
#4
Yes it was like I said most will walk away regardless but the choice is yours. Since the rev limiter is raised your by default going to get a lot of Range 1-2 over revs See attachement and good luck with your purchase
#6
The price is circa £46K Sterling around $72,000 USD.
The upgrades cost quite a bit. From what Ive been told it looks like the range 5 ignitions at a count of 60 is exactly 20 revolutions which at the highest level of ingnition 5 (9000 rpm) we are talking about is 0.12 of a second at that speed and its more likely it was in the 7,900 region.
The upgrades cost quite a bit. From what Ive been told it looks like the range 5 ignitions at a count of 60 is exactly 20 revolutions which at the highest level of ingnition 5 (9000 rpm) we are talking about is 0.12 of a second at that speed and its more likely it was in the 7,900 region.
#7
Do you know the specifics on the engine upgrades? If internals were upgraded, the over-revs likely have far less relevance than if the engine internals are stock. Range 5's, even remote ones, almost always make buyers uncomfortable.
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#8
I'm pretty sure the car is running stock internals. I've never bought one of these cars before hence doing my homework before picking up a potential headache. I do like the car a lot but my head rules my heart these days.
#11
I called the tuning shop who had nothing but good things to say about the car and the work done to it. I also discussed the Range 5 blip of 60 and they looked in to it and advised me it was a very long time ago and such a small fraction of a second was not worth worring about.
#12
I called the tuning shop who had nothing but good things to say about the car and the work done to it. I also discussed the Range 5 blip of 60 and they looked in to it and advised me it was a very long time ago and such a small fraction of a second was not worth worring about.
#13
I personally would rely on who built/modified the car. If they have a good reputation for quality work, and are a good shop. I would not walk away.
However, understand that owning a modifed car is a lifestyle. You have to understand that anything could break at any time. If you are unable to repair a car, or have a car repaired... Well, then I would go look for a CPO car, and keep it stock.
I let my heart overide my head sometimes. Life is just too much fun!
Mike
However, understand that owning a modifed car is a lifestyle. You have to understand that anything could break at any time. If you are unable to repair a car, or have a car repaired... Well, then I would go look for a CPO car, and keep it stock.
I let my heart overide my head sometimes. Life is just too much fun!
Mike
#14
Chris-w below are two good reads regarding DME interpretation with opinions on what one would do or not do. The general consensus is there are plenty of cars out there with a clean bill of health, but I understand what it's like to fall in love with the wrong women, you know its bad but you want it anyway If you are really concerned you can have a leak down and compression test done of course at costs.
https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/997-turbo-gt2/257785-reading-dme-informative-post.html<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-comfficeffice" /><o></o>
https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/997-turbo-gt2/257624-my-guide-how-buy-used-997tt.html#post3341900<o></o>
https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/997-turbo-gt2/257785-reading-dme-informative-post.html<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-comfficeffice" /><o></o>
https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/997-turbo-gt2/257624-my-guide-how-buy-used-997tt.html#post3341900<o></o>
#15
Would a leakdown and compression test clear all worries? basically the pressures on the cylinders should all be near enough the same.. Once cylinder out would show damage correct?