There is prob a reason why the available "power packages" for the 997.2 seems to be capped at around 650 crank...

 

Might be the case, but were are all the threads abt blown .2 engines? or have someone spread a rumour that its more fragile than it is?

Im not claiming anything here, im just curious, pictures and reference and so on would be highly wanted.

FVD who is a vendor here claims 670...

997.2 Turbo Level 3 Kit (670 Hp / 642 Tq) FVD 997 100 73 10.657 €

 

Since you are in Sweden. Give Speedart a call. They claimed that thier tranny upgrade hold 900nm/670ftlbs

http://www.gmpperformance.com/index....ail&PID=226948

 

I didn't want to write this but I will do it. If you tune this 997.2 turbo and blow the engine up are you going to post a thread here that says how you blew a very expensive engine up? If not, then don't try to find those threads you're looking for... for the reason you already know. It's very simple really, there are no ghost stories.
Also there is no one here stopping you from upgrading the turbos of the 997.2. You can go ahead and do it... What I don't understand is why you keep asking for opinions when you know in the first place that you will doubt their validity... I just don't see the point. Anyway, good luck with your modifications.

 

So...who are you? tuner with experience? or a freqvent internet guru?..just asking since u keep posting but dont deliver any facts..just "sayings".

OF COURSE i can go ahead and do it, have you ever heard R&D ?? blow 1 or 2 engines before u know whats the right path to go..yes thats they way it works...but if there is a well knowned tuner who can step up and say "we tryed this and that and this is what happend" i´ll rest my case..but still my main question was about the PDK and i have got my answers about that one now.

// Jonas

 

Tiptronic is stronger than pdk...slower but stronger...also Metzger is wayyy stronger than 997,2 engine...whether you like it or not that is the way it is...R&D for 997,1 engine was second to none...997,2 is an amazing machine in stock form...But please if you go ahead and replace turbos keep this thread posted and let us know...

 

Well...820nm or 900nm ..$7350 i dunno.

 

.I dont have a problem with whats strongest engine or gearbox , im just asking for my customer so HE can choose the correct path and make the right decisions for him and his car.

There must have been MANY customer who changed turbos since FVD, Champion Motorsport, SpeedArt among more offers them.

Anyway..it do looks like he will sell his car and go for a path many have done before with much power

 

Yes there is
EvoMs released thier 650hp kit for PDK while ago. Couple of tuners working on upgraded turbos for 6speed 997.2tt

 

Maybe what the car can produce is not really about the car. Maybe it's who owns the car now seeing the the vw group also owns lambo maybe they don't want the tt to near the aventador @ about half the price. just my .02. cheers!

 

I think Porsche itself is one of the best tuners when reliability is concerned and they chose mezger instead of 9a1 for gt2rs which was manual. If they could save money they would and 9a1 is cheaper than mez. If they didn't trust 9a1 I don't think u should right now.

 

I heard the lower building cost of the 3.8DFI (vs mez.) allowed to sale the PDK a decent price; the 997.2TT 6spd becoming a big marging product but very little part of market
The metzger can't receive the PDK gearbox too, that's another reason (with economy) Porsche develloped the 9A1.

A great tuner bought a 997.2TT and did teasing around the mods to come, I remember the Evoms thread here, but no real following.
I presume because nothing really amazing...

The highest power/torque annouced by a tuner is By Techart if I'm right: 700hp/880Nm, Astonishing torque!
Let's call them Jaws...
(link http://www.techart.de/en/techart-sho...selection.html)

 

At least for the US, IMHO the one tuner that has done the most work exploring the limit of PDK, and one with impeccable reputation, is Champion, and below is what they have posted in the past. I believe the guy posting is Louis Milone, and for what he's done in the past, I do tend to believe what he has to say LOL.

I am aware that there are rumors from Europe tuners about very high horsepower 997.2 PDK, but until a private owner (not a tuner) posted on a public forum numbers from his own PDK 997.2 Turbo that indicates it's possible to go higher than the 600 WHP quoted here, I would be consider this to be the absolute limit. "Pass and your PDK will die." :-)
BTW, no doubt about the greatness of PDK as an automatic box, but until we have more years under our belt, I would be extremely leery about owning a PDK Turbo past the warranty period. IMHO, long-term PDK is probably safe with Boxster and NA 911, but too scary to own when you deal with the brutal torque of a Turbo. Isn't it true if something goes wrong, you have to replace the whole box? And the cost is about 30K?

AFAIK Champion started to work on the PDK box to increase the horsepower tolerance, but never did achieve and release a solution. (Anyone pls correct as needed.)

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https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...d-results.html
We have fully tested the PDK under all circumstances, at various power levels. At the power levels we listed, the PDK did not experience a single glitch. We left a margin of over 20WHP and 35Ftlbs torque.
As I wrote in another posting, Our Step 2 600WHP did slip the PDK clutches, so that kit will only be released for Manual transmission cars until we suitably sort a clutch upgrade for the PDK.. which will happen soon. The other interesting note here is that the 600WHP PDK kit will be software only, the development on the kit is already complete and tested.
Yes, the numbers are quite good, and even we were surprised. Realize that these tests were done independantly. We added 3/4 tank of pump fuel to the car, and handed off the keys for testing. All of this after running lap after lap on the race track all day long by several different drivers. The package is solid !!
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Is Dodson the best now for PDK clutch upgrades now? Up to 1300Nm