08 vs 09 997.1TT - is it worth it for the PCM 3.0
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08 vs 09 997.1TT - is it worth it for the PCM 3.0
I am in the market for a 08 or 09 997TT.
There is about a $10k spread between the model years.
Trying to figure out if there are major advantages to the PCM 3.0 in the 09 or if an 08 with some aftermarket equipment do just about the same thing.
This will be a daily driver for me and unfortunately I need good Bluetooth connectivity to be able to take calls while on the move- one of my favorite features of my current DD a E60 BMW M5 is that when a call comes in I can see who it is on the dash and then just tap the big **** in the console to take the call hands free. I just want to make sure I have similar capability in the 997tt.
Wanted to see if someone with experience with the PCM2 vs 3 and using a phone over bluetooth could chime in.
There is about a $10k spread between the model years.
Trying to figure out if there are major advantages to the PCM 3.0 in the 09 or if an 08 with some aftermarket equipment do just about the same thing.
This will be a daily driver for me and unfortunately I need good Bluetooth connectivity to be able to take calls while on the move- one of my favorite features of my current DD a E60 BMW M5 is that when a call comes in I can see who it is on the dash and then just tap the big **** in the console to take the call hands free. I just want to make sure I have similar capability in the 997tt.
Wanted to see if someone with experience with the PCM2 vs 3 and using a phone over bluetooth could chime in.
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This won't be long trip car for me so not concerned with the nav capabilities. Really interested in the bluetooth connectivity but having trouble finding out much information from google searches ect about the differences between the newer pcm 3 and the pcm 2.
Also trying to figure out on the 09's if it has to have the bluetooth option already installed or if that can be added.
Also trying to figure out on the 09's if it has to have the bluetooth option already installed or if that can be added.
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I am in the market for a 08 or 09 997TT.
There is about a $10k spread between the model years.
Trying to figure out if there are major advantages to the PCM 3.0 in the 09 or if an 08 with some aftermarket equipment do just about the same thing.
This will be a daily driver for me and unfortunately I need good Bluetooth connectivity to be able to take calls while on the move- one of my favorite features of my current DD a E60 BMW M5 is that when a call comes in I can see who it is on the dash and then just tap the big **** in the console to take the call hands free. I just want to make sure I have similar capability in the 997tt.
Wanted to see if someone with experience with the PCM2 vs 3 and using a phone over bluetooth could chime in.
There is about a $10k spread between the model years.
Trying to figure out if there are major advantages to the PCM 3.0 in the 09 or if an 08 with some aftermarket equipment do just about the same thing.
This will be a daily driver for me and unfortunately I need good Bluetooth connectivity to be able to take calls while on the move- one of my favorite features of my current DD a E60 BMW M5 is that when a call comes in I can see who it is on the dash and then just tap the big **** in the console to take the call hands free. I just want to make sure I have similar capability in the 997tt.
Wanted to see if someone with experience with the PCM2 vs 3 and using a phone over bluetooth could chime in.
Hey - I can't comment on the '08, but funny - I upgraded from my DD E60M5 to the 09 997tt - was laughing reading your post. I love the upgrade and its my new DD. The bluetooth is working very well and I take/make calls all the time and really enjoy using the the control arm via the secondary display in the dash.
Enjoy! (I was very happy to lose the weight from the M5 and I love my new DD!)
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I had an 09 C2S before I got my 07 Turbo. Coming from an E92 M3, PCM 3.0 sucks badly, and PCM 2.0 felt like holding a stone tablet up on my dash, trying to engrave routes into it with a chisel and hammer.
Neither are great navi systems. I agree with VID997 that the 09+ interior bits are more attractive, but in my car, I like the contrast of the dark silver and light silver. Definitely the HVAC controls are an improvement.
To me, the exterior changes, as minor as they are more meaningful. However are they worth $10k? Especially compared with a set of $500 LED taillights, and a $1000 nav system?
I think that resale on the 09 is going to be better, but the further we get from PCM 3.0 being current... I suspect the 09 is going to have farther to fall from a percentage point of view, too. (some pics of my 07 attached)
Neither are great navi systems. I agree with VID997 that the 09+ interior bits are more attractive, but in my car, I like the contrast of the dark silver and light silver. Definitely the HVAC controls are an improvement.
To me, the exterior changes, as minor as they are more meaningful. However are they worth $10k? Especially compared with a set of $500 LED taillights, and a $1000 nav system?
I think that resale on the 09 is going to be better, but the further we get from PCM 3.0 being current... I suspect the 09 is going to have farther to fall from a percentage point of view, too. (some pics of my 07 attached)
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I had an 09 C2S before I got my 07 Turbo. Coming from an E92 M3, PCM 3.0 sucks badly, and PCM 2.0 felt like holding a stone tablet up on my dash, trying to engrave routes into it with a chisel and hammer.
Neither are great navi systems. I agree with VID997 that the 09+ interior bits are more attractive, but in my car, I like the contrast of the dark silver and light silver. Definitely the HVAC controls are an improvement.
To me, the exterior changes, as minor as they are more meaningful. However are they worth $10k? Especially compared with a set of $500 LED taillights, and a $1000 nav system?
I think that resale on the 09 is going to be better, but the further we get from PCM 3.0 being current... I suspect the 09 is going to have farther to fall from a percentage point of view, too. (some pics of my 07 attached)
Neither are great navi systems. I agree with VID997 that the 09+ interior bits are more attractive, but in my car, I like the contrast of the dark silver and light silver. Definitely the HVAC controls are an improvement.
To me, the exterior changes, as minor as they are more meaningful. However are they worth $10k? Especially compared with a set of $500 LED taillights, and a $1000 nav system?
I think that resale on the 09 is going to be better, but the further we get from PCM 3.0 being current... I suspect the 09 is going to have farther to fall from a percentage point of view, too. (some pics of my 07 attached)
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I'm in the same spot! Have an e92 m3. I convinced myself that the 09s have the minimum of tech in them. I was also hoping the stereo was somehow improved. In the same search, I am now seriously considering a GTR. All of the performance, resale at least as good, more versatile, and even a bit cheaper. I've driven several turbos though and really like them-always have. Also, there may be some benefit in having a car that doesn't appear as ostentatious as a tt. I may very well wait until winter is over our until the right deal comes along.
My TT excites me. The GT-R is very clinical feeling, I feel like I'm way too much of a passenger in it. It's probably faster in that it's easier to drive, and you can make silly power with it, but the maintenance, by the book at least, is way more expensive and tedious. It's nowhere near as sexy to me, either. Plus, I'm long of Torso and simply don't fit in it.
PCM 3.0 is ok, and functional, and the Bose system works, but there is definitely room for improvement. I think the GT-R's higher level of ambient road noise means that the stereo has to work harder... lots of room for improvement for it and less opportunity to upgrade.
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VS PCM 2.1, it's WAY less distracting and it actually can find its way around, though PCM 3.0 does give you the option of using the **** vs touchscreen, but neither work that well.
#14
Heh, I thought about a GT-R.
My TT excites me. The GT-R is very clinical feeling, I feel like I'm way too much of a passenger in it. , an It's probably faster in that it's easier to drived you can make silly power with it, but the maintenance, by the book at least, is way more expensive and tedious. It's nowhere near as sexy to me, either. Plus, I'm long of Torso and simply don't fit in it.
My TT excites me. The GT-R is very clinical feeling, I feel like I'm way too much of a passenger in it. , an It's probably faster in that it's easier to drived you can make silly power with it, but the maintenance, by the book at least, is way more expensive and tedious. It's nowhere near as sexy to me, either. Plus, I'm long of Torso and simply don't fit in it.
Time spent behind a GTR:
L22 1:41.769 (within my sights and working through traffic)
L23 1:43.293 (getting closer and hoping he sees me)
L24 1:47.409 (caught him and all over him his rear end)
L25 1:43.887 (pushing him hard while he continued to block pass me)
L26 1:43.588 (yet another lap he spent block passing me and almost going off track on several turns)
L27 1:45.783 (finally realizing he is completely f'ing me over)
L28* 1:40.019 ( ah, finally got around him)
* indicates my fastest lap during my qualifying session.
GT-R's are not faster....they just make their drivers think they are the fastest on track period, because they are playing a video game and not living in reality.
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My time spent behind a heavily modified 2012 GT-R at Laguna, AMBit timing and scoring:
Time spent behind a GTR:
L22 1:41.769 (within my sights and working through traffic)
L23 1:43.293 (getting closer and hoping he sees me)
L24 1:47.409 (caught him and all over him his rear end)
L25 1:43.887 (pushing him hard while he continued to block pass me)
L26 1:43.588 (yet another lap he spent block passing me and almost going off track on several turns)
L27 1:45.783 (finally realizing he is completely f'ing me over)
L28* 1:40.019 ( ah, finally got around him)
* indicates my fastest lap during my qualifying session.
GT-R's are not faster....they just make their drivers think they are the fastest on track period, because they are playing a video game and not living in reality.
Time spent behind a GTR:
L22 1:41.769 (within my sights and working through traffic)
L23 1:43.293 (getting closer and hoping he sees me)
L24 1:47.409 (caught him and all over him his rear end)
L25 1:43.887 (pushing him hard while he continued to block pass me)
L26 1:43.588 (yet another lap he spent block passing me and almost going off track on several turns)
L27 1:45.783 (finally realizing he is completely f'ing me over)
L28* 1:40.019 ( ah, finally got around him)
* indicates my fastest lap during my qualifying session.
GT-R's are not faster....they just make their drivers think they are the fastest on track period, because they are playing a video game and not living in reality.