Only pdk on new 911 turbo
#91
I've been looking for the past 3 years online. Production numbers have been declining almost at a constant rate every year. I searched all available new 2012 6M 911 TT Coupes from all U.S. dealers and jotted the VIN. There may be more, but I was only able to count 50 because 2012 was a very short run, and the GT3 had even a even shorter run. I couldn't order a 2012 TT because Porsche stopped orders for 2012 TT after 5 months of production because they were fast retooling the factory for the new 991. Remaining chassis numbers were dwindling. It was a nightmare to find the one I wanted from the few remaining cars that were available on the lots.
Another way of deducing how many may have been produced might be from PCA reports for all 997 turbos. Crude formula = Total world production x coupe:6M:cab:TTS sales ratios x 25% for U.S.A. x 5/12 month run.
Unless someone has published numbers. Or I'll ask next time I'm in the dealership.
Another way of deducing how many may have been produced might be from PCA reports for all 997 turbos. Crude formula = Total world production x coupe:6M:cab:TTS sales ratios x 25% for U.S.A. x 5/12 month run.
Unless someone has published numbers. Or I'll ask next time I'm in the dealership.
#92
What I'm saying makes no sense is that you make the following assumption even though production numbers of manual transmission cars are ridiculously low: If the dealers really thought that your above statement is reality, then why wouldn't they have ordered more cars that weren't PDK?
#95
Guess I should hold on to my mint 2007 997.1 6 speed with 7800 miles, GT Silver loaded! The PDK is amazing technology and I may give in if there is no other choice in the future. Wonder what my car is worth...
#96
What I'm saying makes no sense is that you make the following assumption even though production numbers of manual transmission cars are ridiculously low:
If the dealers really thought that your above statement is reality, then why wouldn't they have ordered more cars that weren't PDK?
If the dealers really thought that your above statement is reality, then why wouldn't they have ordered more cars that weren't PDK?
I ended up getting a slightly over-optioned 2012 TT coupe in May, or else I would've been stuck. It was one of the last new 6M TT cars in the country since there were no more allocations. Hey, it's better then nothing. I have no regrets. As far as production numbers are concerned, I am just conveying what I was able to count from online. Did I miss some cars, probably. But whenever I called the dealer, their searches didn't reveal any new cars that I didn't know about in my own search. Remember too, that my search was limited to ONLY U.S.A. 2012 TT 6M Coupes. Even if it's 60 or 70, it's still low. That's why I seized the opportunity.
As TTSurgeon said the 997.1 6M is and will continue to be a classic, but the 997.2 won't be lagging too far behind, especially if one wants to run stock. The weather is starting to break up here in N.E. and hopefully the car will come out of hibernation once the streets are steeped...
#97
As TTSurgeon said the 997.1 6M is and will continue to be a classic, but the 997.2 won't be lagging too far behind, especially if one wants to run stock. The weather is starting to break up here in N.E. and hopefully the car will come out of hibernation once the streets are steeped...
997.1TT 6M is definitely a keeper (last Mezger guarantees its place in history); but since I have a 997.2TT 6M, I'm still hoping that if the DFI engine stands the test of time, the 997.2TT 6M could be a pretty rare car with the last manual 911 Turbo title.
Last edited by DaBrat; 04-01-2013 at 06:28 AM.
#98
Karman I guess you aren't picking up what I'm putting down. If manual really was so much more desirable among buyers, don't you think the dealers would've ordered many more manual trans cars than they appeared to, based on your research? Fact is most buyers prefer PDK. We have an awfully skewed perspective of the desirability between the two transmissions with us being here on the forum where enthusiasts come together.
#99
Karman I guess you aren't picking up what I'm putting down. If manual really was so much more desirable among buyers, don't you think the dealers would've ordered many more manual trans cars than they appeared to, based on your research? Fact is most buyers prefer PDK. We have an awfully skewed perspective of the desirability between the two transmissions with us being here on the forum where enthusiasts come together.
That being said, I'll be keeping my 930T and 997.2TT manuals and am looking forward to my next car with flappy paddles.
Best of both worlds!
#100
Wow, you're selling yours? You just finished making it awesome!
#101
Manual is pretty out dated with new technology and nobody is offering them. In 2009 Lamborghini said that 3% of their customers requested manual, and cancelled them. The exotic car market is heavily influenced by F1, so this makes sense. It seems to be the natural evolution of the auto industry and I remember at one time intermittent wipers replaced 2 speed systems. Now, intermittent wipers, airbags, ABS brakes, etc. are standard on every car and proven to be quite efficient.
#102
Right now the PDK option adds $4,550 to the price of a TT. Last night at the bar, Wolfgang Hatz and his colleagues decided by only making the PDK available, they could later pull out the back seats, door panels and a few other items and then offer a MT in a 991 TT special edition for a $25,000 premium...
Last edited by DoninDEN; 04-01-2013 at 07:34 AM.
#103
People said the same thing about the air cooled 993. No thanks. As cool as those cars were(are), I'm looking to see what is next.
There are some that feel that the 993 was the 'last true 911', and the soul died with the 996.
There are always those who resist - and then later join in the fun, after realizing what they've been missing.
('Vette fans are going through this right now as well)
There are some that feel that the 993 was the 'last true 911', and the soul died with the 996.
There are always those who resist - and then later join in the fun, after realizing what they've been missing.
('Vette fans are going through this right now as well)
#104
I'm going to stereotype here and I have to admit I have never had the opportunity nor the good fortune to ride in, let alone drive a Lamborghini. But could it be that Lamborghini drivers are more interested in more important matters (hair style, sunglasses, shirt collar and cuffs, etc.) than shifting?
#105
People said the same thing about the air cooled 993. No thanks. As cool as those cars were(are), I'm looking to see what is next.
There are some that feel that the 993 was the 'last true 911', and the soul died with the 996.
There are always those who resist - and then later join in the fun, after realizing what they've been missing.
('Vette fans are going through this right now as well)
There are some that feel that the 993 was the 'last true 911', and the soul died with the 996.
There are always those who resist - and then later join in the fun, after realizing what they've been missing.
('Vette fans are going through this right now as well)
I'm feeling bad about beating the crap out of my 997 now... I hope someone out there is keeping one mint for me so I can grab it in a couple years.