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Old 03-21-2013, 04:16 PM
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Car Mag, 3/13...Wolfgang Hatz (quote): "Next turbo will take 911 to new level and I will be honest, we will not have a manual anymore." They had a photo of it which seemed to show little change except for a smaller rear spoiler.
 
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If this is true and the final word on the topic it is very disappointing. Just like BMW it seems Porsche is losing its way. PDK is cool and a great option but for a drivers car many want a manual. Otherwise one might as well save some money and buy a GTR (which I hold accountable for the demise of the manual in these cars along with Nurburgring times). I wonder if the new 7 speed can't handle the torque of the higher performing engines and they don't want it to be seen as a failure by putting in the old 6 speed.
 
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I feel it all comes down to marketing numbers. Along these lines it may be better for us all, oddly, that the 'Ring closes so that manufacturers can get away from one upmanship on 'Ring times and back to satisfying the driving enthusiast.
 
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bmw is the last manufacturer to offer manuals on most cars it offers (just have to special order most of the time), porsche killing the manual is really dissappointing...
 
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I saw this coming.
That noise you just heard was the price of low mile mt mezger 997.1tt holding steady and creeping up.
They truly are THE LAST of the great turbos.
 
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I saw this coming.
That noise you just heard was the price of low mile mt mezger 997.1tt holding steady and creeping up.
They truly are THE LAST of the great turbos.
That's why mine is mint with 10k miles on it!
 
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Originally Posted by TT Surgeon
I saw this coming.
That noise you just heard was the price of low mile mt mezger 997.1tt holding steady and creeping up.
They truly are THE LAST of the great turbos.
 
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They truly are THE LAST of the great turbos.
preach.
 
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US HP-cars like CTS-V coupe, Shelby, Corvette, Viper and Camaro will stay with manual-shift for awhile. Maybe Cadi will try harder with upcoming 2014-new design CTS-V coupe, that is, make the car more mature GT-european looking and stay away from their juvenile directed bad-boy racer styling.
 

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It is a shame not to have manual. PDK is pretty amazing tech.
 
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I will reserve my sentiments until i drive it. Agree PDK is amazing tech, but no manual is off to a bad start.
 
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Manual cars are dead.. One you go pdk you never go back..
 
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No way , I had PDK in my former car, ended up driving in auto mode only.
Back in a manual and couldn't be happier.

If true it is a real shame, the turbo should be available in manual.
I did not think Porsche would do this, apparently I was wrong
 
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very believeable given that the upcoming GT3 is also PDK only.
Sad
 
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Manual cars are dead.. One you go pdk you never go back..
Lol. You mean once you have no choice you have no choice.

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No way , I had PDK in my former car, ended up driving in auto mode only.
Back in a manual and couldn't be happier.
This is what always happens i find. The paddles only keep you amused for so long before you realise you are kidding yourself....i.e. just trying to stay amused with the technology.....novelty wears off....back to auto.
 


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