My EVOMS EVT775 ownership thread. *Long...*
#46
06-15-2013 | 11:45 AM
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Justin, thanks for sharing your story. I like others am very frustrated for you. If there is any true "family" here it's the 6speed members who communicate for the benefit of all.
Like I said in my post to your other thread, I moved from AZ to TX and have been inside the EVOMS facility. There is absolutely no excuse for not addressing this issue with you in a more timely manner. I don't care who your point person is...Rob, Ian, Matt, Todd...etc...this is a business with many years in the game and one that has serviced many 6 speed members. How can they not be more responsive to you one way or the other.
There are many threads here posted by EVOMS where they highlighted their projects cars, builds, Texas results etc. so obviously they know what gets posted here. Why is there not someone their handling PR?
I have no idea what an EVT775 kit costs but to think you wasted another 20k after bonehead (6speed member) spent big money getting it done originally is worrisome. Then you spend another lump sum locally...
Customer says he wants to spend 10k and you bill him for 20k. How about some dialogue along the way to inform him why it needs this work, approval of terms etc. How about some business tact to not discuss this with his wife who may already has concerns about such a big purchase and the stress her husband is going through. Am I missing something here...business 101?
Good luck Justin, I hope you get some sort of information, resolution, piece of mind and apology for how you have been treated.
Like I said in my post to your other thread, I moved from AZ to TX and have been inside the EVOMS facility. There is absolutely no excuse for not addressing this issue with you in a more timely manner. I don't care who your point person is...Rob, Ian, Matt, Todd...etc...this is a business with many years in the game and one that has serviced many 6 speed members. How can they not be more responsive to you one way or the other.
There are many threads here posted by EVOMS where they highlighted their projects cars, builds, Texas results etc. so obviously they know what gets posted here. Why is there not someone their handling PR?
I have no idea what an EVT775 kit costs but to think you wasted another 20k after bonehead (6speed member) spent big money getting it done originally is worrisome. Then you spend another lump sum locally...
Customer says he wants to spend 10k and you bill him for 20k. How about some dialogue along the way to inform him why it needs this work, approval of terms etc. How about some business tact to not discuss this with his wife who may already has concerns about such a big purchase and the stress her husband is going through. Am I missing something here...business 101?
Good luck Justin, I hope you get some sort of information, resolution, piece of mind and apology for how you have been treated.
OP, I sincerely hope things work out for you. It's really surprising to hear that one of the "big guys" in P car modification is involved in this.
#51
06-17-2013 | 08:00 AM
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How is it possible that EVO has still not addressed this thread?
I only hear about their cars running with problems. A guy that lives right around me has a 775 kit and we did probably 4 different pulls from a few different speeds and I beat him every time in my stock Turbo S. Maybe this is normal because of the PDK? I don't know. Regardless of what kind of power the kit actually produces, I'd be so pissed if I was the OP with all the bull**** they fed him every step of the way.
I only hear about their cars running with problems. A guy that lives right around me has a 775 kit and we did probably 4 different pulls from a few different speeds and I beat him every time in my stock Turbo S. Maybe this is normal because of the PDK? I don't know. Regardless of what kind of power the kit actually produces, I'd be so pissed if I was the OP with all the bull**** they fed him every step of the way.
#52
06-17-2013 | 08:59 AM
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How is it possible that EVO has still not addressed this thread?
I only hear about their cars running with problems. A guy that lives right around me has a 775 kit and we did probably 4 different pulls from a few different speeds and I beat him every time in my stock Turbo S. Maybe this is normal because of the PDK? I don't know. Regardless of what kind of power the kit actually produces, I'd be so pissed if I was the OP with all the bull**** they fed him every step of the way.
I only hear about their cars running with problems. A guy that lives right around me has a 775 kit and we did probably 4 different pulls from a few different speeds and I beat him every time in my stock Turbo S. Maybe this is normal because of the PDK? I don't know. Regardless of what kind of power the kit actually produces, I'd be so pissed if I was the OP with all the bull**** they fed him every step of the way.
#53
06-17-2013 | 09:05 AM
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Yea, that was kind of my point. Clearly, the car was not running right.
#54
06-17-2013 | 09:41 AM
Those welds Look terrible. You can see where there was no attention to cleaning the aluminum, they cold in some spots and hot in others, and overall look amateur at best. I deff would be very pissed if I paid 2100 bucks for that.
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06-17-2013 | 12:07 PM
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Well I do not know what to say about about reading this review buddy... You handled that A LOT better than I would. So many things that you went through including no communication leading up to a 22k bill would have me on the first flight to AZ. That is completely unacceptable when dealing with such high end cars and such high bills.
I honestly have 30k aside at the moment for when I buy my 997.1 and it was going to go to EVOMS because I am in Vegas and they are close. I am 100% not going to be going there now. I am sorry it took your hard times and stress for me to realize I am better off somewhere else.
Good luck with the car and post progress buddy!
PS: Thanks a lot for sharing!
I honestly have 30k aside at the moment for when I buy my 997.1 and it was going to go to EVOMS because I am in Vegas and they are close. I am 100% not going to be going there now. I am sorry it took your hard times and stress for me to realize I am better off somewhere else.
Good luck with the car and post progress buddy!
PS: Thanks a lot for sharing!
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06-17-2013 | 12:26 PM
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How is it possible that EVO has still not addressed this thread?
I only hear about their cars running with problems. A guy that lives right around me has a 775 kit and we did probably 4 different pulls from a few different speeds and I beat him every time in my stock Turbo S. Maybe this is normal because of the PDK? I don't know. Regardless of what kind of power the kit actually produces, I'd be so pissed if I was the OP with all the bull**** they fed him every step of the way.
I only hear about their cars running with problems. A guy that lives right around me has a 775 kit and we did probably 4 different pulls from a few different speeds and I beat him every time in my stock Turbo S. Maybe this is normal because of the PDK? I don't know. Regardless of what kind of power the kit actually produces, I'd be so pissed if I was the OP with all the bull**** they fed him every step of the way.
#58
06-17-2013 | 01:00 PM
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i purchased the evoms intake piping for my 996 turbo. after looking at the website add i made a deal with a board sponser for this and some other parts.
shipped my intake to the vendor for modding and waited for the all the parts. after receiving all the parts, it was clear from the beginning the intake piping was a very poor fit. i spent weeks trying to get it to fit without success. i called evoms and spoke to ian who informed me that since i didnt buy from them they would provide no support because they didnt modify the intake plenum.(after speaking with the vendor i purchased the parts from he informed me the plenum was sent to evoms for the needed modifying ) after speaking with the vendor and his assurance that if i cut the piping and it still didnt fit he would refund my cost, i cut all the piping up and make a custom fitment. never again would i buy anything from evoms. in the end 900$ for ill fitting product that never fit properly.
heres the add they continue to run.
Air Inlet - Turbo Ducts
SKU:INTKFAID996TT
Evolution MotorSports continues to lead the Porsche performance aftermarket with new and innovative products for the 996 twin turbo models. Our most recent product is our V-Flow 70mm polyurethane turbo fresh air inlet ducts. The OEM ducts are significantly smaller in diameter, which restricts the air feeding the turbochargers. This restriction causes increased turbo lag and an overall power restriction on higher horsepower engines. Our V-Flow air inlet ducts internal diameter is increased by as much as 60% in certain sections, which allows for more airflow and more power. Our system is a direct replacement for OEM system and will add more power and torque on any modified 996TT / GT2.
Features
-Molded Polyurethane Pipes for a perfect fit and maximized air flow
-Improves boost response and overall power
-Reduces heat and improves acceleration
-Eliminates OEM restrictive cast aluminum and plastic duct
shipped my intake to the vendor for modding and waited for the all the parts. after receiving all the parts, it was clear from the beginning the intake piping was a very poor fit. i spent weeks trying to get it to fit without success. i called evoms and spoke to ian who informed me that since i didnt buy from them they would provide no support because they didnt modify the intake plenum.(after speaking with the vendor i purchased the parts from he informed me the plenum was sent to evoms for the needed modifying ) after speaking with the vendor and his assurance that if i cut the piping and it still didnt fit he would refund my cost, i cut all the piping up and make a custom fitment. never again would i buy anything from evoms. in the end 900$ for ill fitting product that never fit properly.
heres the add they continue to run.
Air Inlet - Turbo Ducts
SKU:INTKFAID996TT
Evolution MotorSports continues to lead the Porsche performance aftermarket with new and innovative products for the 996 twin turbo models. Our most recent product is our V-Flow 70mm polyurethane turbo fresh air inlet ducts. The OEM ducts are significantly smaller in diameter, which restricts the air feeding the turbochargers. This restriction causes increased turbo lag and an overall power restriction on higher horsepower engines. Our V-Flow air inlet ducts internal diameter is increased by as much as 60% in certain sections, which allows for more airflow and more power. Our system is a direct replacement for OEM system and will add more power and torque on any modified 996TT / GT2.
Features
-Molded Polyurethane Pipes for a perfect fit and maximized air flow
-Improves boost response and overall power
-Reduces heat and improves acceleration
-Eliminates OEM restrictive cast aluminum and plastic duct
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#59
06-17-2013 | 06:08 PM
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I bought a EVT700 car this year too. It was built back in late 2007.
So far, I have to say that I'm less than impressed with their headers (cracks due to pretty but weak welds, not polished/ported), intercooler had a crack(may not be their fault). And turbos had to be rebuilt (maybe related to the boost leak through IC). I'll post pics later. Also the GIAC tune that came with the car was not good at all (another thread when I have time).
Again, my car has been in the shop as much as in my garage. Hope that makes you feel better that you're not the only one with issue from them..
So far, I have to say that I'm less than impressed with their headers (cracks due to pretty but weak welds, not polished/ported), intercooler had a crack(may not be their fault). And turbos had to be rebuilt (maybe related to the boost leak through IC). I'll post pics later. Also the GIAC tune that came with the car was not good at all (another thread when I have time).
Again, my car has been in the shop as much as in my garage. Hope that makes you feel better that you're not the only one with issue from them..
#60
06-17-2013 | 09:22 PM
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I have had an EVT700 then upped it to and EVT775 with dual ecu and other goodies. The car was street tuned by Todd/Evoms for 91oct and 100oct. Although it had 15k on the clock I have never once had an issue in the years I owned it.
Maybe it comes down to the history of the vehicle and how it was cared for vs crapping on a vendor for various issues when it was purchased third party with a few previous owners. Sometimes it appears to be a deal for a reason.
I do agree 100% on the racked up bill and your overall handling of this situation has been superb.
Recently sold it this month in anticipation for a 2014 vehicle.
Maybe it comes down to the history of the vehicle and how it was cared for vs crapping on a vendor for various issues when it was purchased third party with a few previous owners. Sometimes it appears to be a deal for a reason.
I do agree 100% on the racked up bill and your overall handling of this situation has been superb.
Recently sold it this month in anticipation for a 2014 vehicle.