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Old 06-18-2013 | 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by 0-60freak
Wow speed 21.... Although I really appreciate the skilled advice, you got me worried ....stef only supplied four new nuts....So your saying the studs will have to be replaced? the car only has 1900miles...everything should be fresh and not seized up....should I go to dealer and order 8 new studs?
If you don't have them supplied i certainly would advise having them on hand along with the 8 nuts and a die nut. If Stef didn't supply them that's odd. Maybe he was out at the time? Usually you get the 8 nuts 8 studs and 2 gaskets unless he has changed his kit format. Is yours a .1 or .2 tt?

Anyway I wouldn't bank on them all coming out without any hitches. If they did you would be one very lucky boy. Spray some of that special lube in them first but as the studs sit horizontally the liquid can't find its way everywhere you would hope. It's the getting off of the nuts that can sometimes pose a problem because they are a one way lock nut. Sometimes you will even get the odd nut stick on the stud thread and unwind the stud out of the housing. That's not a bad situation because then all you need to do is put in a new stud. That said its always handy having the mating thread tap to clear the thread out before install of the new studs because if you have one of those studs lock up before its fully home then you wont be able to get it out again without causing a bit of damage on the thread at the other end.
 
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Old 06-18-2013 | 09:34 PM
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Here is what came with system
 
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Its a 2012 997.2 tts .....I will contact Stef tomorrow for his advise
 
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Old 06-18-2013 | 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by 0-60freak
Its a 2012 997.2 tts .....I will contact Stef tomorrow for his advise
I see yours is the .2tt so i am aware the kit make is different to the .1.

I recall hearing with the .2tt the I/C's have to also come off and the kit make up is different to the .1tt kit due to that reason.

Best to check with Stef on the contents but if it were me doing the job i'd have my preparations in order regardless.

Regardless of mileage these areas are prone to the sorts of problems i speak of. Mine only had 4K kms from brand new and clean as a wisker when i changed out my first system. Boy that one was sure a learning curve because the fit up was no where near as good as the EP was. It was tough with no preparations at the ready. You have no idea just how lucky you are to be fitting an EP and not something else far less thought out. When i did the EP i still went through a few studs and nuts and the previous AM system was only on for @ 1000kms max...probably less as i couldn't stand the thing. Woeful, god only knows how guys put up with it and then say to others they are as good as an EP. Crazy.
 
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Email Stef for the instructions and ask about the nuts/studs.

I did the install a couple months back by myself and it is not too bad. Some notables:
- using wood under the wheels gives enough room to one person the bumper
- jack one side of the car to let the wheel hang lower to remove the liner. Cordless drill attached to the supplied angle tool works great here.
- wire removal is a pita.
- turbo nuts removed fairly easily with the supplied ratchet tool and some hits with a hammer.
-have a 22mm open wrench for removing the O2 sensors. The supplied o2 socket may break. Torch may be needed for heating the sensor area.
- when installing the exhaust put it on a board on a jack to lift it into place. With the exhaust close but not in pull the wires into place.
- reinstall from here is smooth sailing
- finally, if considering a tune, which usually goes hand in hand w exhaust, consider changing the plugs when everything's out.

Cheers!
 
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Old 06-19-2013 | 05:40 AM
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Well I'm sure it's not rocket science... I wouldn't do it because my skills are not qualify lol (I suck)
I thought with all your on again, off agin exhaust saga, that you said you did all the install work to save money??
 
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Old 06-19-2013 | 05:44 AM
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I thought with all your on again, off agin exhaust saga, that you said you did all the install work to save money??
I did it with my cousin but no this time... I gonna have to pay for it because he is in Europe... And I won't even try to do it myself
 
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Old 06-19-2013 | 07:21 AM
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With your 2012 Turbo S you don't need new studs. The nuts at the turbochargers are 12mm and will come off easily while on the 997.1 Turbo they are 13mm and these can be a pain to unlock.

Unlocking the Lambda and O2 sensors on your almost new Turbo will be no problem either.

There is no need to pull all the sensor wires through.

To me swapping exhausts on a Turbo S is a piece of Belgian waffle.

Either way I'm here to assist you or anyone else with the swap.
 
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Agree with Speed21. My installer took an extra hour just to remove a broken stud. Other than the locking nut, the heat from the exhaust also causes the studs to seize. But then again, you have only 1900 miles (which is insanely low) so it may not be a problem.
 
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Old 06-19-2013 | 11:08 AM
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Congrats OP on joining the EP's club! You'll love the sounds of your EP exhaust... Enjoy in good health mate.
 
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Old 06-19-2013 | 11:43 AM
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Europipe and Belgian waffle...cant resist to chime in and comment...
amazing engineering and craftsmanship combined with the best after sales service met over the last 15 years in automotive business...
Tourne brothers really stand up behind their products as good as they design and manufacture them...perfect...
P.S. Stef i can assist with waffles as well...
 
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Old 06-19-2013 | 07:31 PM
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Size:  160.6 KBThanks guys for all of the input.....Im with you skandalais447 on the after the sale communication and service europipe (stef) provides ....I would of love to have watched them hand craft this masterpiece....Steve tt I have a lift in garage and I plan on lowering the car down on a workstand under exhaust then removing fasteners then raising the car the reversing the process installing the new system. I prob wont tune the computer or change plugs. Stef, thank you for clarifying today, I searched my box for chocolates, waffle mix and messages from Belgium women but found none :-( ** note that the car on the lift is the car I traded for my tts.
 
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Old 06-19-2013 | 07:32 PM
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My studs were in really bad shape when I pulled my exhaust off. I should have replaced them but I just ran a die over them for the nuts and was able to re use them. I figured that the exhaust couldn't be too hard to replace but it was a pain in the **** on the ground without any help. With a lift, which I have now, it would have been alot easier. Any way make sure you have the tools you need on hand, have fun and take your time and it will come out just fine.
 
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Old 06-19-2013 | 07:39 PM
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Thanks mattgarrett.....I will post pics soon of my install....Sorry to bore all of you with my exhaust saga....I'm just excited....I'm doing it myself because I take pride in things like this plus don't want anyone touching my baby, not to save money
 
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Old 06-20-2013 | 05:30 AM
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Lots of penetrating oil like PB Blaster is the key. Start to spray two days prior to install. Keep them wet. I applied about 5 times in two days. All 8 studs came out easy and good shape! They all looked reusable. My car had over 60k miles when I took the exhaust off. It's very doable by yourself with extra hand. GL!
 


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