Yes, we have an in-house Mustang AWD dyno that is used for all of our development work. We also perform significant road testing in various ambient conditions.

In terms of a "generic" tune, I can assure you that we would not leave any safe power on the table (I think Tom will agree with this, as we work with them so frequently). The only way you might be able to squeeze out some more power from our software would be if you added a higher grade fuel (say 110 leaded or better) and we tuned specifically for that. This is something that we can certainly work out for highly modified vehicles.

We actually flash multiple files onto your ECU. The switching device we use is simply that, as it does not store any files within it. The benefit to loading multiple files within the ECU is that you can switch between them in a second, as opposed to actually flashing the ECU with a different map.

Any other questions, feel free to PM me.

 

I have an idea but I rather not discuss at the moment. As soon as I get everything confirmed I will post though.

 

Yes, if you have a CPO warranty then it would obviously be an important factor for you.

 

I would just buy a 997 GT3RS or a 991 GT3 if your only tracking.

 

Has anyone ever posted any 60-130 times with your built motor and VTG's?

 

Our Champion Motorsport warranty blankets your CPO for as long as the CPO is valid.

Not that I'm aware of. We've had a few 1/4 miles passes in the low 10's but no 60-130. Apparently, after getting my a$$ kicked in this thread...I need to make it my mission to make that happen.

*edit...actually....the person who bought KerCar's full used kit did do a few 60-130's...but he never sent in the results. I think he went as fast as 5.7 on pump gas. He also ran a 10.08 or 10.1 quarter with the car. He's from the Northeast somewhere. He is on 6Speed but doesn't like to post this sort of stuff for some reason.

 

It would be really good for your company to have some customers post some times. It would probably help you sell a lot more kits than you already do. Try and get that customer to go to an event(half-mile) in the north east.

Thomas from Giac said he's going to try and get a customer with your full 65mm kit to go to the airstrip event so if he does I'll have the race on the go pro and I will upload it. Maybe Thomas can bring P-box and hook it up to his car for you guys.

 

With all due respect to all members and vendors.

Being 54 and having spent seven figures for modding cars in my life, I have come to very specific conclusions.

1) What is the profile of the owner of the car?
2) Are you looking for the absolute maximum ?
3) Is reliability a factor ?
4) What is the background of the tuner you are going to trust ?
Is the vendor involved in any true racing conditions ?
Are his mechanics experienced with TRUE LIFE race conditions ?
5) Are some 1/4 mile numbers or 60-130 numbers enough to ensure that after
50 or 100 or 200 runs the engine will still be intact ?
6) Finally, can you handle all this power and torque ?
Do we understand here that if someone is to spend 50k on the engine, he must
spend another 50k at least, on the rest of the car to keep it on the road ?
7) Which vendor can sign such a warranty, so when the bad moment comes, you will
not see fingers pointing the other way ?

Just some thoughts.

Me ?

I would trust ( and I do trust ) only people who have spent their life as mechanics
modifying true race cars.

In common sense that is called experience.


George

 

I don't think there is any reason NOT to believe the numbers that were achieved. Your reputation and credibility are first class as far as I am concerned. However, many of us have pointed out that it is just odd that there is only 1 result posted even though there are many cars running the turbo. Just sayin. Arone had promised results for his car on pump gas and all of a sudden he sold it. Of course it is just coincidence. There was another thread where you had said that you will probably have some of your customers cars and should be able to get some pbox data, did anything come of that?

I've made it clear that I am interested in a set of these turbos for my own car so I'm not just busting your chops for no good reason , I want to see some pump gas pbox numbers so I can make an informed decision. I don't concern myself about whether the dyno shows 600whp or 700whp, it's the acceleration numbers that speak for themselves.

 

His numbers were on e85. He just beat me by 2 minutes out of buying KerCar's setup. He was very happy with the 68s last time I communicated with him so I couldn't get him to sell the package to me.

 

+1 I'm very curious as well!

 

I'm guessing it was tuned by protomotive because Giac (who tunes champion's kits) does not offer E85!

 

correct

 

A 5.7 on e85 leads me to further question a 5.5 on "****ty pump gas". I'm sure giac will say "its all in the tuning" but... Todd seems to know a 'bit' about tuning these cars. Unless he was severely fuel limited. I know in my case, 80# injectors are out of any headroom so we can only run 21psi. That and torque limits, and pump limits. Basically it all runs out at approx the same point on e85.

Long story short, I want to believe in Tom/Champion, but I want at least one more data point.

 

Thanks (everyone) for the good explanation and good thread. I didn't realize there is such significant difference between the choices.