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Originally Posted by Thomas@GIAC
This was on the race file for 100 octane.
Using pump + meth injection?
 
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Using pump + meth injection?
Pump/race mix with water-methanol injection.
 
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I was able to pull this run from the setup noted on the original post. This car has:

Champion 68mm Turbos
GIAC ECU Software
GIAC TCU Software
Stock Turbo Inlets
2.5" Exhaust
Stock Injectors
100 octane fuel

This run was taken from No Fly Zone Airstrip event in Bakersfield, 03/02/2013. Temperature at this event was 82 degrees, at an elevation of 424 feet. This gives us a density altitude of around +2100 feet. You can see that even in a higher density altitude, the car shaved off over a second in the 60-130 by adding the air and fueling supporting modifications.

Champion 68's, stock fueling, stock inlets: 7.99 60-130 (+2100 DA)
Champion 68's, upgraded fueling and inlets: 6.76 60-130 (+2800 DA)

 
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Do the Champion 68mm turbos have extrude honed turbine housings?
 
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Do the Champion 68mm turbos have extrude honed turbine housings?
Not to my knowledge, but if this is something you want I imagine that it could be arranged. The turbine housings are modified though:

https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...explained.html
 

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are 997tt turbos the same size as gt2/gt2 rs turbos ?
is one better off "hybriding" the factory turbos, or getting gt2 turbos and hybriding those?
 
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Originally Posted by Steve K ny
are 997tt turbos the same size as gt2/gt2 rs turbos ?
is one better off "hybriding" the factory turbos, or getting gt2 turbos and hybriding those?
Here is Champion's explanation of the differences:

https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...explained.html
 
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Originally Posted by Steve K ny
are 997tt turbos the same size as gt2/gt2 rs turbos ?
is one better off "hybriding" the factory turbos, or getting gt2 turbos and hybriding those?
997TT and GT2 turbos are slightly different, mostly on the turbine side. GT2RS turbos are totally different. They're almost like a hybrid between .1 and .2 turbos.
 
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Updated first page with some more racing footage.
 
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how would these turbos translate into power output for PDK 997.2 tts on 91 Cali gas? Or is it something not advisable on on PDK and newer engine?
 
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Originally Posted by blindfold
how would these turbos translate into power output for PDK 997.2 tts on 91 Cali gas? Or is it something not advisable on on PDK and newer engine?
Your answer is here:

https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...ck-turbos.html
 
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how far is giac/champion from 1000+hp on the new 3.8 dfi's

and will it ever be possible in your opinion after experimenting for a couple years now on the 997.2 and soon the 991
 
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Originally Posted by alexo
how far is giac/champion from 1000+hp on the new 3.8 dfi's

and will it ever be possible in your opinion after experimenting for a couple years now on the 997.2 and soon the 991

Yes, it's definitely possible on the 997.2 cars. The only problem is that it's EXPENSIVE! To get there, you need a built engine, modified and reinforced PDK, and fuel system. Altogether, the cost of doing all three has really prohibited anybody from taking the leap and doing it. I've got a few customers who might be interested, but none have taken the leap yet.
 
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approximately how much are we talking about? and hopefully with time... the production costs and r&d will be reduced... we need some pioneers with some deep pockets uh
 
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If you look at GTR pricing it would probably be well over $100k to do it right. A full tilt GTR trans is over $40k on its own.
 


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