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Another newbe question (Suspension)

What is the difference between coil overs and good shocks with lowering spring?? Also could you name a few good coil over brands besides ohlins.....

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JRZ and KW are popular coilover brands.
 
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What is the difference between coil overs and good shocks with lowering spring?? Also could you name a few good coil over brands besides ohlins..... Thanks in advance...

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What is the difference between coil overs and good shocks with lowering spring?? Also could you name a few good coil over brands besides ohlins.....
Thanks in advance...
Sorry if you already know any of the following, but basically our suspension has 2 parts: the damper (shock absorber) and the spring. There are 3 ways you could modify this:

1. Modify the damper to alter damping forces (high damping force, *in general* means stiffer cars). This can be done by changing internal valve (almost never done for this purpose) or by changing the program that controls the valve (the new product by TPC for example).
2. Modify the spring by using stiffer and lower spring: this is called lowering springs because after-market springs almost always also lower the cars. The stiffness varies and if you want better handling, I would suggest stiffer lowering springs such as GMG or Techart.
3. Modify both spring and damper: this is called coilover (spring over the damper) by convention.

For anyone interested:
Advantage of 1 is simplicity and low cost, and no lowering for those looking for it. Disadvantage is there is only so much you could do as the springs remain soft stock springs, and there is no lowering.
Advantage of 2 is simplicity and low cost, AND car is lowered for better look and handling. Disadvantage is you are still using the soft stock damper with the schizophrenic first generation PASM program.
Advantage of 3 is higher performance, perfectly matched damper and spring, lowering could be varied, and flexibility as springs could be changed. Disadvantage is complexity and cost.
Hope this helps.
 

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Originally Posted by cannga
Sorry if you already know any of the following, but basically our suspension has 2 parts: the damper (shock absorber) and the spring. There are 3 ways you could modify this: 1. Modify the damper to alter damping forces (high damping force, *in general* means stiffer cars). This can be done by changing internal valve (almost never done for this purpose) or by changing the program that controls the valve (the new product by TPC for example). 2. Modify the spring by using stiffer and lower spring: this is called lowering springs because after-market springs almost always also lower the cars. The stiffness varies and if you want better handling, I would suggest stiffer lowering springs such as GMG or Techart. 3. Modify both spring and damper: this is called coilover (spring over the damper) by convention. For anyone interested: Advantage of 1 is simplicity and low cost, and no lowering for those looking for it. Disadvantage is there is only so much you could do as the springs remain soft stock springs, and there is no lowering. Advantage of 2 is simplicity and low cost, AND car is lowered for better look and handling. Disadvantage is you are still using the soft stock damper with the schizophrenic first generation PASM program. Advantage of 3 is higher performance, perfectly matched damper and spring, lowering could be varied, and flexibility as springs could be changed. Disadvantage is complexity and cost. Hope this helps.
Thank you really helpful!
 
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