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#31
Nice. Do you have the dyno? Curious how your curve looks..
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996TT SpoolBus - 204.6 mph 1/2 Mile 996TT WR Aug 2018, 9.5 @ 154 mph, 3.23 60-130 mph, 2.5 100-150 mph Manual Porsche World Record, 1400whp E85
997TT SlowBerry - 205.0 mph 1/2 Mile WR Nov 2018, 9.7 @ 170 mph 1/4 Mile , 3.2 60-130 mph , 2.4 100-150 mph , 1420whp E85
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997TT SilverSpool - 210.8 mph 1/2 Mile WR Apr 2019, 9.2 @ 168 mph 1/4 Mile Manual World Record , 3.15 60-130 mph , 2.72 100-150 mph , 1400whp E85
996TT SpoolBus - 204.6 mph 1/2 Mile 996TT WR Aug 2018, 9.5 @ 154 mph, 3.23 60-130 mph, 2.5 100-150 mph Manual Porsche World Record, 1400whp E85
997TT SlowBerry - 205.0 mph 1/2 Mile WR Nov 2018, 9.7 @ 170 mph 1/4 Mile , 3.2 60-130 mph , 2.4 100-150 mph , 1420whp E85
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#32
Here's a boost graph of the 6.4 run yesterday. Notice its at 18.5 psi for most of 3rd gear and then 19ish in 2nd.
Another key point is a 0.6sec boost drop through the shift. With a tiptronic this would be negligible, let alone if this was a PDK it'd already run 5s no problem
It'd seem that even with this 6MT setup there's a 5 sec 60-130 on pump while being nice to the stock rods. Other than boost fuel also needs some tweaking with these ID1000s. With the manufacturer's suggested injector latency settings the car was maxing fuel trims in the negative direction running low 10:1 even dipping into high 9s and saturating the widebands. Its a little better now but still needs some work there as well.
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Another key point is a 0.6sec boost drop through the shift. With a tiptronic this would be negligible, let alone if this was a PDK it'd already run 5s no problem
It'd seem that even with this 6MT setup there's a 5 sec 60-130 on pump while being nice to the stock rods. Other than boost fuel also needs some tweaking with these ID1000s. With the manufacturer's suggested injector latency settings the car was maxing fuel trims in the negative direction running low 10:1 even dipping into high 9s and saturating the widebands. Its a little better now but still needs some work there as well.
Dzenno@PTF
#33
Sorry, no dyno graphs as Mustang dynos suck for data exports. With a Dynojet I'd grab the drf files on my usb stick and open them at home in their WinPEP software. With a Mustang I have to load the graph, export to JPG and I'm always lazy to get that done at the dyno at the end. I'll try and get some charts next time out.
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#35
do you have boost vs rpm ?
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997TT SilverSpool - 210.8 mph 1/2 Mile WR Apr 2019, 9.2 @ 168 mph 1/4 Mile Manual World Record , 3.15 60-130 mph , 2.72 100-150 mph , 1400whp E85
996TT SpoolBus - 204.6 mph 1/2 Mile 996TT WR Aug 2018, 9.5 @ 154 mph, 3.23 60-130 mph, 2.5 100-150 mph Manual Porsche World Record, 1400whp E85
997TT SlowBerry - 205.0 mph 1/2 Mile WR Nov 2018, 9.7 @ 170 mph 1/4 Mile , 3.2 60-130 mph , 2.4 100-150 mph , 1420whp E85
ESMOTOR | DO88 | TPC DSC | SYVECS | COBB | IPD | KLINE | XONA | AMS | ID | ERP | SACHS | TURBOSMART | CSF | DODSON |
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997TT SilverSpool - 210.8 mph 1/2 Mile WR Apr 2019, 9.2 @ 168 mph 1/4 Mile Manual World Record , 3.15 60-130 mph , 2.72 100-150 mph , 1400whp E85
996TT SpoolBus - 204.6 mph 1/2 Mile 996TT WR Aug 2018, 9.5 @ 154 mph, 3.23 60-130 mph, 2.5 100-150 mph Manual Porsche World Record, 1400whp E85
997TT SlowBerry - 205.0 mph 1/2 Mile WR Nov 2018, 9.7 @ 170 mph 1/4 Mile , 3.2 60-130 mph , 2.4 100-150 mph , 1420whp E85
ESMOTOR | DO88 | TPC DSC | SYVECS | COBB | IPD | KLINE | XONA | AMS | ID | ERP | SACHS | TURBOSMART | CSF | DODSON |
#36
Managed to pull a 2.5sec 60-100mph, 3rd gear. This is after cleaning up a rich condition in the tune due to ID1000s. Otherwise same tune as before.
Car is quite a beast for nothing but pump gas. This was actually captured going quite a bit uphill!
Before this run there were a couple 2.7 runs on relatively flat level road.
Car is quite a beast for nothing but pump gas. This was actually captured going quite a bit uphill!
Before this run there were a couple 2.7 runs on relatively flat level road.
#38
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#39
20psi on these at the moment with just pretty much much default EBC settings and no work in spool mode on the flash is around 4300-4400 RPM in 3rd gear.
In 4th gear it is in the 3800-3900rpm range currently. Given the EBC is currently set to target that boost PID will slow it down as it approaches target to prevent overshoot so I wouldn't take these as final but its probably about 90% there.
Goal with the turbos on this car in terms of spool up was a high 3k 20psi on the road, with load, in 4th gear.
Here's a chart with about 1psi overshoot on spool up, 3rd gear. Some bumps in the road once in gear past spool up..
In 4th gear it is in the 3800-3900rpm range currently. Given the EBC is currently set to target that boost PID will slow it down as it approaches target to prevent overshoot so I wouldn't take these as final but its probably about 90% there.
Goal with the turbos on this car in terms of spool up was a high 3k 20psi on the road, with load, in 4th gear.
Here's a chart with about 1psi overshoot on spool up, 3rd gear. Some bumps in the road once in gear past spool up..
#40
20psi on these at the moment with just pretty much much default EBC settings and no work in spool mode on the flash is around 4300-4400 RPM in 3rd gear.
In 4th gear it is in the 3800-3900rpm range currently. Given the EBC is currently set to target that boost PID will slow it down as it approaches target to prevent overshoot so I wouldn't take these as final but its probably about 90% there.
Goal with the turbos on this car in terms of spool up was a high 3k 20psi on the road, with load, in 4th gear.
Here's a chart with about 1psi overshoot on spool up, 3rd gear. Some bumps in the road once in gear past spool up..
In 4th gear it is in the 3800-3900rpm range currently. Given the EBC is currently set to target that boost PID will slow it down as it approaches target to prevent overshoot so I wouldn't take these as final but its probably about 90% there.
Goal with the turbos on this car in terms of spool up was a high 3k 20psi on the road, with load, in 4th gear.
Here's a chart with about 1psi overshoot on spool up, 3rd gear. Some bumps in the road once in gear past spool up..
on Ethanol I hit 19psi at 3500rpm in 3rd gear. i use .9bar springs in the WGs. no target overshoot on boost it just stays flat. i set the gain pretty low on the EBC either at 5 or 10 %. so far i am happy with it. it sux having to control the boost the old school way and not in the tune but its just not in the cards for the 997TT
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997TT SilverSpool - 210.8 mph 1/2 Mile WR Apr 2019, 9.2 @ 168 mph 1/4 Mile Manual World Record , 3.15 60-130 mph , 2.72 100-150 mph , 1400whp E85
996TT SpoolBus - 204.6 mph 1/2 Mile 996TT WR Aug 2018, 9.5 @ 154 mph, 3.23 60-130 mph, 2.5 100-150 mph Manual Porsche World Record, 1400whp E85
997TT SlowBerry - 205.0 mph 1/2 Mile WR Nov 2018, 9.7 @ 170 mph 1/4 Mile , 3.2 60-130 mph , 2.4 100-150 mph , 1420whp E85
ESMOTOR | DO88 | TPC DSC | SYVECS | COBB | IPD | KLINE | XONA | AMS | ID | ERP | SACHS | TURBOSMART | CSF | DODSON |
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997TT SilverSpool - 210.8 mph 1/2 Mile WR Apr 2019, 9.2 @ 168 mph 1/4 Mile Manual World Record , 3.15 60-130 mph , 2.72 100-150 mph , 1400whp E85
996TT SpoolBus - 204.6 mph 1/2 Mile 996TT WR Aug 2018, 9.5 @ 154 mph, 3.23 60-130 mph, 2.5 100-150 mph Manual Porsche World Record, 1400whp E85
997TT SlowBerry - 205.0 mph 1/2 Mile WR Nov 2018, 9.7 @ 170 mph 1/4 Mile , 3.2 60-130 mph , 2.4 100-150 mph , 1420whp E85
ESMOTOR | DO88 | TPC DSC | SYVECS | COBB | IPD | KLINE | XONA | AMS | ID | ERP | SACHS | TURBOSMART | CSF | DODSON |
#41
injectors come with manufacturers settings for this but they have to be altered in most cases to fine tune. for example when you rev the car and then RPMs drop, voltage does too and you have to compensate that. after about 3 tries Garth had my car idling the 1400s perfectly at 1.00 Lambda on Ethanol.
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997TT SilverSpool - 210.8 mph 1/2 Mile WR Apr 2019, 9.2 @ 168 mph 1/4 Mile Manual World Record , 3.15 60-130 mph , 2.72 100-150 mph , 1400whp E85
996TT SpoolBus - 204.6 mph 1/2 Mile 996TT WR Aug 2018, 9.5 @ 154 mph, 3.23 60-130 mph, 2.5 100-150 mph Manual Porsche World Record, 1400whp E85
997TT SlowBerry - 205.0 mph 1/2 Mile WR Nov 2018, 9.7 @ 170 mph 1/4 Mile , 3.2 60-130 mph , 2.4 100-150 mph , 1420whp E85
ESMOTOR | DO88 | TPC DSC | SYVECS | COBB | IPD | KLINE | XONA | AMS | ID | ERP | SACHS | TURBOSMART | CSF | DODSON |
#TeamAIM
997TT SilverSpool - 210.8 mph 1/2 Mile WR Apr 2019, 9.2 @ 168 mph 1/4 Mile Manual World Record , 3.15 60-130 mph , 2.72 100-150 mph , 1400whp E85
996TT SpoolBus - 204.6 mph 1/2 Mile 996TT WR Aug 2018, 9.5 @ 154 mph, 3.23 60-130 mph, 2.5 100-150 mph Manual Porsche World Record, 1400whp E85
997TT SlowBerry - 205.0 mph 1/2 Mile WR Nov 2018, 9.7 @ 170 mph 1/4 Mile , 3.2 60-130 mph , 2.4 100-150 mph , 1420whp E85
ESMOTOR | DO88 | TPC DSC | SYVECS | COBB | IPD | KLINE | XONA | AMS | ID | ERP | SACHS | TURBOSMART | CSF | DODSON |
#42
on Ethanol I hit 19psi at 3500rpm in 3rd gear. i use .9bar springs in the WGs. no target overshoot on boost it just stays flat. i set the gain pretty low on the EBC either at 5 or 10 %. so far i am happy with it. it sux having to control the boost the old school way and not in the tune but its just not in the cards for the 997TT
EBC isn't my cup of tea either but it is what it is for now. Of the EBCs this one should get the job done better if/when we wire pu wheel speed and IAT into it for duty cycle compensation.
#43
injectors come with manufacturers settings for this but they have to be altered in most cases to fine tune. for example when you rev the car and then RPMs drop, voltage does too and you have to compensate that. after about 3 tries Garth had my car idling the 1400s perfectly at 1.00 Lambda on Ethanol.
Last edited by proTUNING Freaks; 11-05-2014 at 10:22 AM.
#44
injectors come with manufacturers settings for this but they have to be altered in most cases to fine tune. for example when you rev the car and then RPMs drop, voltage does too and you have to compensate that. after about 3 tries Garth had my car idling the 1400s perfectly at 1.00 Lambda on Ethanol.