MT tests 997tt: 0-60 @ 3.2 & 1/4 @ 11.4
#61
Originally Posted by SCvet00
the ET and 0-60 are amazing, but I think we can all agree that some of that is due to the awd system. Trap speeds of 121 don't even match the SRT-10, never mind a C6 Z06.
I would like to see more tests done for this car. But, if the car traps 120-122 consistently, it will not be a match for a C6 Z06 given that both cars get full traction, in other words, from a roll.
jmo
I would like to see more tests done for this car. But, if the car traps 120-122 consistently, it will not be a match for a C6 Z06 given that both cars get full traction, in other words, from a roll.
jmo
Originally Posted by SCvet00
Right on!! Line up a 121 mph trap car (997 TT) with a 127 mph trap car (C6 Z06) from a 50-160 and watch what happens, nevermind lining it up with a CGT or an Enzo which both trap over 130.
btw, Ruiner, "Ranger" has driven his C6 Z06 to a 11.3@127 in bone stock trim on the stock runflats, and there is another guy that just posted a 10.9@130 with headers, cai, thermostat and a tune on stock tires.
btw, Ruiner, "Ranger" has driven his C6 Z06 to a 11.3@127 in bone stock trim on the stock runflats, and there is another guy that just posted a 10.9@130 with headers, cai, thermostat and a tune on stock tires.
#62
Originally Posted by iLLM3
OMFG thankyou, someone gets what i was trying to say and pointing out. The AWD ability to get off the line and to produce those times, but the trap from a roll i didnt think would be like a Z06, oh well!
#63
Originally Posted by iLLM3
OMFG thankyou, someone gets what i was trying to say and pointing out. The AWD ability to get off the line and to produce those times, but the trap from a roll i didnt think would be like a Z06, oh well!
I agree, however. I had a feeling that the new 997TT would be slower than the 2nd gen 996 GT2 (and so far, it appears that I am correct). That car traps in the 122mph area give or take. Even the 996 GT2 is not enough to overtake the C6 Z06...
Now, were these tests by MT done with the sport chrono or not? If not, there is some hope...if so, then the non-sport chrono's traps would be slightly worse.
#64
Originally Posted by Ruiner
Yet you never quoted me....
I agree, however. I had a feeling that the new 997TT would be slower than the 2nd gen 996 GT2 (and so far, it appears that I am correct). That car traps in the 122mph area give or take. Even the 996 GT2 is not enough to overtake the C6 Z06...
Now, were these tests by MT done with the sport chrono or not? If not, there is some hope...if so, then the non-sport chrono's traps would be slightly worse.
I agree, however. I had a feeling that the new 997TT would be slower than the 2nd gen 996 GT2 (and so far, it appears that I am correct). That car traps in the 122mph area give or take. Even the 996 GT2 is not enough to overtake the C6 Z06...
Now, were these tests by MT done with the sport chrono or not? If not, there is some hope...if so, then the non-sport chrono's traps would be slightly worse.
#65
Originally Posted by PorscheC4
Im gonna go with the 997tt from a roll. I think the 997tt manual will probably trap a couple miles and hour hire and run .1-.2 slower. 127, the avg z06 runs 124-125. Not that much of a difference from 121.
#66
Originally Posted by SCvet00
Right on!! Line up a 121 mph trap car (997 TT) with a 127 mph trap car (C6 Z06) from a 50-160 and watch what happens, nevermind lining it up with a CGT or an Enzo which both trap over 130.
btw, Ruiner, "Ranger" has driven his C6 Z06 to a 11.3@127 in bone stock trim on the stock runflats, and there is another guy that just posted a 10.9@130 with headers, cai, thermostat and a tune on stock tires.
btw, Ruiner, "Ranger" has driven his C6 Z06 to a 11.3@127 in bone stock trim on the stock runflats, and there is another guy that just posted a 10.9@130 with headers, cai, thermostat and a tune on stock tires.
in all seriousness, I was pretty sure the turbo would not be able ot match the Z06 in the straight line, but would come close. The power to weight ratio was what had me certain it would be hard for the 997TT to win the stop light race, but again you pay for what you get. There are tons of 10 sec cars running around that cost a fraction of what a 997TT costs. The Z06 is a monster in its own right, but it is a GM car(i own one so I am entitled to say this). They do not take the care that porsche does when putting it together. This was proved when the damn roof flew off and they had issues with the brakes rotors being funny(two right or two left rotors up front on some of the earlier ones I think). Bottom line is, you are paying for a car that is built by porsche, it will last much much longer when you track it over several years.
A good example is with the T1 Z06s and the T1 GT3s. I looked into both cars and went to a very reputable shop in the area to get an idea of cost etc. Yes it would have been cheaper to buy a C5 Z06 and convert it to T1, however, the cost per season to run the Z06 was FAR FAR more because you will more than likely end up going through a couple motors. The motors are not expensive, but the shop owner runs a T1 GT3 and has not had to replace the motor, lasts much longer on brakes, had to do far less suspension work(actually at first SCCA did not even allow much of a suspension upgrade on the GT3). He said that I would end up saving money by the time I ran a couple seaons in a GT3.
I guess what I am trying to say is...in the end you are comparing a car maker who has made its place in the car world by building sports cars and winning racing championships with one that is known for building pickup trucks(again I own a GM truck, so I can say this). They make great trucks, but I can not say the same for their cars.
#68
Originally Posted by Porscheboy16
Can't wait to see the new 0-100-0 test. THey haven't done that in a while.
Last time it was 996TT X50 vs. a Viper SRT10, maybe this time it will be a 997TT vs. a z06
Last time it was 996TT X50 vs. a Viper SRT10, maybe this time it will be a 997TT vs. a z06
I should hope so !
#69
I for one cant wait to see head to head road test from all the auto magazine's including Road and Track, Car and Driver and I presume they have the Z06 as
their number one choice. Not that it matters to me what they say about either car anyways, but they always like the Detroit muscle due to their in-expensive cost versus the European cars high cost etc. Whatever.....
Drive what you like and if a Z06 makes your cookie crumble munch away.
A Porsche will always be a Porsche regardless of what 0-60, 0-100, it does on paper, something about owning one that you just cant put a price tag on, as I am sure guys with unlimited expense accounts that drive a CGT, Enzo, or the like can affirm. Its not always about the bling, sometimes its just one thing (patent pending).
Bajo
their number one choice. Not that it matters to me what they say about either car anyways, but they always like the Detroit muscle due to their in-expensive cost versus the European cars high cost etc. Whatever.....
Drive what you like and if a Z06 makes your cookie crumble munch away.
A Porsche will always be a Porsche regardless of what 0-60, 0-100, it does on paper, something about owning one that you just cant put a price tag on, as I am sure guys with unlimited expense accounts that drive a CGT, Enzo, or the like can affirm. Its not always about the bling, sometimes its just one thing (patent pending).
Bajo
#73
Originally Posted by BBGT2
I for one cant wait to see head to head road test from all the auto magazine's including Road and Track, Car and Driver and I presume they have the Z06 as
their number one choice. Not that it matters to me what they say about either car anyways, but they always like the Detroit muscle due to their in-expensive cost versus the European cars high cost etc. Whatever.....
Drive what you like and if a Z06 makes your cookie crumble munch away.
A Porsche will always be a Porsche regardless of what 0-60, 0-100, it does on paper, something about owning one that you just cant put a price tag on, as I am sure guys with unlimited expense accounts that drive a CGT, Enzo, or the like can affirm. Its not always about the bling, sometimes its just one thing (patent pending).
Bajo
their number one choice. Not that it matters to me what they say about either car anyways, but they always like the Detroit muscle due to their in-expensive cost versus the European cars high cost etc. Whatever.....
Drive what you like and if a Z06 makes your cookie crumble munch away.
A Porsche will always be a Porsche regardless of what 0-60, 0-100, it does on paper, something about owning one that you just cant put a price tag on, as I am sure guys with unlimited expense accounts that drive a CGT, Enzo, or the like can affirm. Its not always about the bling, sometimes its just one thing (patent pending).
Bajo
#74
A twin-clutch gearbox is in the works, but don't expect to see it any time soon.
http://www.roadandtrack.com/article....rticle_id=3439
http://www.roadandtrack.com/article....rticle_id=3439
#75
Originally Posted by iLLM3
Very true, although i will say, if the Z06 and 997TT are chosen to go head to head, i have a sick feeling the turbo will toast the Z06 in acceleration up ot 100 and maybe even 1/4 mile numbers. Yes the Z06's are fast, but in mag test's they arent as impressive as some of the guys out there who own them who are pulling these times, oh well, we just have to wait and see ig uess