Really Need Sport Chrono?
#4
I'm on the wait list at Roslyn (ex Silverstar) Porsche
Originally Posted by C4S Surgeon
Helps resale. FYI, there's a GT silver one at Silverstar porsche on LI if anybody is looking.
#6
I would not even consider buying a turbo without sport/chrono.
And yes, you do feel the difference.
I like to say, in normal mode, the turbo feels like a lear jet.
In Sport mode, the turbo feels like a fighter jet.
It is kind of amazing actually. You also feel a vast difference in the ride quality between the two settings.
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And yes, you do feel the difference.
I like to say, in normal mode, the turbo feels like a lear jet.
In Sport mode, the turbo feels like a fighter jet.
It is kind of amazing actually. You also feel a vast difference in the ride quality between the two settings.
B
#7
Originally Posted by B-Line
I would not even consider buying a turbo without sport/chrono.
And yes, you do feel the difference.
I like to say, in normal mode, the turbo feels like a lear jet.
In Sport mode, the turbo feels like a fighter jet.
It is kind of amazing actually. You also feel a vast difference in the ride quality between the two settings.
B
And yes, you do feel the difference.
I like to say, in normal mode, the turbo feels like a lear jet.
In Sport mode, the turbo feels like a fighter jet.
It is kind of amazing actually. You also feel a vast difference in the ride quality between the two settings.
B
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#10
Tony,
Hurst from Rennteam posted this:
"Porsche gouging isn't so much about wrote comparative statistics. In terms of performance, the 997TT is a great value compared to F430/Gallardo. However, that's not the issue:
The accusations towards Porsche price gouging really stem from Porsche homogenizing their production line in order to reduce their production prices in their own economies of scale. Big difference between 997cs2 and 997TT? Technically yes, aesthetically no.
It's not the product as a whole, rather the product philosophy. That philosophy spills out into things such as the bumps in performance incentive packages (not happy with the Turbo's performance? Get a Turbo S or an X50 or a GT2. Not happy with the pedestrian sound of the Turbo? Don't worry, the PSE will come for a price etc etc), the product placement structures (the Cayman's underpowered delivery in order to avoid canabalizing 911 sales, thus producing an inferior product) and the lack of commitment to customer needs (hardcore track users who require a lack of sunroof on 997 GT3s/RSs and the reluctance of PAG to do crash testing on 997s in order to save money, thus giving you a track car with a sunroof).
It's antithetical towards a true-bred motorsports company, but that's the evolution of a homogenized capitalist corporate structure. I understand commitment to shareholders, but commitment to your base of purists is equally important. Once you lose the base, it all comes crumbling down."
Gives me a pretty good insight on Porsche's stance on pricing their cars, options nothwithstanding. In other words, Porsche charges extra for their options/cars because they can.
Hurst from Rennteam posted this:
"Porsche gouging isn't so much about wrote comparative statistics. In terms of performance, the 997TT is a great value compared to F430/Gallardo. However, that's not the issue:
The accusations towards Porsche price gouging really stem from Porsche homogenizing their production line in order to reduce their production prices in their own economies of scale. Big difference between 997cs2 and 997TT? Technically yes, aesthetically no.
It's not the product as a whole, rather the product philosophy. That philosophy spills out into things such as the bumps in performance incentive packages (not happy with the Turbo's performance? Get a Turbo S or an X50 or a GT2. Not happy with the pedestrian sound of the Turbo? Don't worry, the PSE will come for a price etc etc), the product placement structures (the Cayman's underpowered delivery in order to avoid canabalizing 911 sales, thus producing an inferior product) and the lack of commitment to customer needs (hardcore track users who require a lack of sunroof on 997 GT3s/RSs and the reluctance of PAG to do crash testing on 997s in order to save money, thus giving you a track car with a sunroof).
It's antithetical towards a true-bred motorsports company, but that's the evolution of a homogenized capitalist corporate structure. I understand commitment to shareholders, but commitment to your base of purists is equally important. Once you lose the base, it all comes crumbling down."
Gives me a pretty good insight on Porsche's stance on pricing their cars, options nothwithstanding. In other words, Porsche charges extra for their options/cars because they can.
Last edited by atomic80; 09-15-2006 at 12:31 PM.
#12
Also need to remember that Porsche has the task of covering all R&D for each car they make and stay within a certain pricing structure for their brand. This can be tricky to say the least. It might be easier just to grossly overprice all their cars like Ferrari or Lambo, include all options and pay for it all in one fell swoop. But they would lose a large portion of their customer base.
In reality, you simply cannot beat the price for the engineering excellence you get in the car (not to mention the drive quality).
The options can be pricey but I don't think they charge the prices they do simply because they can. It's a business and everything they do must be paid for and still provide a profit in the end.
My two cents anyways.
In reality, you simply cannot beat the price for the engineering excellence you get in the car (not to mention the drive quality).
The options can be pricey but I don't think they charge the prices they do simply because they can. It's a business and everything they do must be paid for and still provide a profit in the end.
My two cents anyways.
#13
Originally Posted by jlingk
Also need to remember that Porsche has the task of covering all R&D for each car they make and stay within a certain pricing structure for their brand. This can be tricky to say the least. It might be easier just to grossly overprice all their cars like Ferrari or Lambo, include all options and pay for it all in one fell swoop. But they would lose a large portion of their customer base.
In reality, you simply cannot beat the price for the engineering excellence you get in the car (not to mention the drive quality).
The options can be pricey but I don't think they charge the prices they do simply because they can. It's a business and everything they do must be paid for and still provide a profit in the end.
My two cents anyways.
In reality, you simply cannot beat the price for the engineering excellence you get in the car (not to mention the drive quality).
The options can be pricey but I don't think they charge the prices they do simply because they can. It's a business and everything they do must be paid for and still provide a profit in the end.
My two cents anyways.
#14
Sorry..I didn't mean to insinuate that I thought Porsche charged certain "prices" because they could. I meant that they made certain choices because they could either out of necessity or because they wanted to.
#15
Originally Posted by jlingk
In reality, you simply cannot beat the price for the engineering excellence you get in the car (not to mention the drive quality).