997 Turbo / GT2 2006–2012 Turbo discussion on the 997 model Porsche 911 Twin Turbo.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: Bears Transport

Pre-trading, what's the advantage?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Rate Thread
 
  #1  
Old 10-01-2006, 12:07 PM
TT Gasman's Avatar
Registered User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Texas
Age: 62
Posts: 1,989
Rep Power: 116
TT Gasman has a brilliant futureTT Gasman has a brilliant futureTT Gasman has a brilliant futureTT Gasman has a brilliant futureTT Gasman has a brilliant futureTT Gasman has a brilliant futureTT Gasman has a brilliant futureTT Gasman has a brilliant futureTT Gasman has a brilliant futureTT Gasman has a brilliant futureTT Gasman has a brilliant future
Pre-trading, what's the advantage?

My dealer really wants me to pre trade my 996 now, I have a June allocation/ July build 997TT. The advantage would be a little less depreciation if I trade it now, the disadvantage is being Porscheless for almost a year!!
For some background my 996 is a2000 C2, 36K, lots of nice upgrades. Including RoW 030, GT3 Sport Designs, OEM SSK, third radiator, exhaust...no leaks, no wrecks ever. A very solid enthusiast owned 996.
I don't want he hassle of selling it myself so I prefer to trade it. Should I pre- trade and go Porscheless??
 
  #2  
Old 10-01-2006, 12:14 PM
GHOSTRIDER-TT's Avatar
Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: DALLAS, TX
Posts: 723
Rep Power: 48
GHOSTRIDER-TT is infamous around these partsGHOSTRIDER-TT is infamous around these parts
Depending on which state you live in this might cost you in taxes.
It might be tough in some states that give you a tax credit from the sales price for the transaction to roll over to the next year. As long as the dealer is willing to cover the potential loss in tax savings ( get it in writing) I don't see a problem with doing this.
 
  #3  
Old 10-01-2006, 01:52 PM
jay_ftw's Avatar
Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Murrieta, Southern California
Age: 38
Posts: 1,489
Rep Power: 79
jay_ftw is infamous around these parts
I see a problem-

being Porscheless-

Unless you have another sports car...?
 
  #4  
Old 10-01-2006, 03:45 PM
mja 996TT's Avatar
Member
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Chicago
Posts: 215
Rep Power: 29
mja 996TT is infamous around these parts
July build=August delivery............. that's a long time to go without a Porsche. The dealer would really need to make it worthwhile for me to do it.

good luck
 
  #5  
Old 10-01-2006, 03:59 PM
C4Cortez's Avatar
Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: midwest
Age: 59
Posts: 114
Rep Power: 23
C4Cortez is infamous around these parts
Don't take the dealer's word for the legal time-frame....check with your DMV regarding required turnaround time in order to credit the trade-in to offset taxes on the new car.

In some states you can take up to 1 year (e.g. if the title transferred into the dealer's name on November 1, 2006 you could take delivery of the new TT anytime before October 31, 2007 and receive trade-in credit re:taxes).

Also depends on how sweet the deal is.... it goes without saying that the C2 title should be signed over to the dealer alongside a written commitment specifying @ % discount off MSRP for the Turbo signed by the Sales Mgr.

Kelly Blue Book would say around $30K trade-in (not counting the value of GT3 wheels + the RoW suspension). IMO you could probably sell a sweet C2 like that listing it yourself using Autotrader in about 2 weeks' time if you priced it at $35K. Factoring the $2500 tax benefit of trade-in-- assuming 8% sales tax-- I would only trade-in if dealer is offering at least $32.5K now.

*Dealer (or you) also stands to earn ~ $1500 in interest over the next 11 months if the C2 sells right away to its next owner.... another reason the dealer favors pre-trade as early as poss.
 

Last edited by C4Cortez; 10-01-2006 at 04:23 PM.
  #6  
Old 10-01-2006, 10:20 PM
Frissen's Avatar
Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Houston
Posts: 798
Rep Power: 60
Frissen has much to be proud ofFrissen has much to be proud ofFrissen has much to be proud ofFrissen has much to be proud ofFrissen has much to be proud ofFrissen has much to be proud ofFrissen has much to be proud ofFrissen has much to be proud of
Can we see the current C2? Sounds interesting...
 
  #7  
Old 10-02-2006, 08:13 PM
B-Line's Avatar
Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 122
Rep Power: 22
B-Line is infamous around these parts
DJ,

I can't help but think, the only advantage to a pretrade is to give the dealership another vehicle to make money on until you get your 997TT.

Maybe I am wrong here but I think most of the depreciation that happens to Pcars comes from miles, not years. I would assume a 996TT with less than a 1000 miles or so would still fetch massive numbers from a dealer like RPM Sportscars, etc.

My point is, what ever trade in value the dealership is giving you, (I am guessing a few thousand below KBB) is in their favor to begin with. If I were you, despite your desire to not hassle with private sales, I would list the car on Autotrader at private party value and see if you get any bites. You might be talking about a difference of thousands and thousands of dollars.

Now here in California, there is no tax exemption to trading in a car so it rarely makes sense to trade in. But I have also noticed that Pcars often have a lower blue book value than what these cars sell for on the street. Yes, my experience comes from a 993 so I understand there will be differences for the 996 world but some things are probably true.

At the very least, you might want to investigate what 2000 996 cars are selling for in the premium market and private market.

Good Luck,
B
 
  #8  
Old 10-02-2006, 09:41 PM
dr_sharp's Avatar
Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: SoTex
Posts: 483
Rep Power: 38
dr_sharp is infamous around these parts
I agree... autotrader the car at KBB price (higher than the dealer would offer). If no-one is interested then sell to the dealer next year.
 
  #9  
Old 10-02-2006, 10:20 PM
TT Gasman's Avatar
Registered User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Texas
Age: 62
Posts: 1,989
Rep Power: 116
TT Gasman has a brilliant futureTT Gasman has a brilliant futureTT Gasman has a brilliant futureTT Gasman has a brilliant futureTT Gasman has a brilliant futureTT Gasman has a brilliant futureTT Gasman has a brilliant futureTT Gasman has a brilliant futureTT Gasman has a brilliant futureTT Gasman has a brilliant futureTT Gasman has a brilliant future
I'm inclined to wait and trade it later, unless they offer me a good number. I'll have to check out the tax credit this far in advance. They will have a chance to look at it this month when I take it in for the yearly service.
If anybody is interested pm your email address and I'll send pics, the 6speedonline database is not letting me upload the images.
 
  #10  
Old 10-02-2006, 11:55 PM
iLLM3's Avatar
Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: SOFLA/NYC
Posts: 16,297
Rep Power: 715
iLLM3 Is a GOD !iLLM3 Is a GOD !iLLM3 Is a GOD !iLLM3 Is a GOD !iLLM3 Is a GOD !iLLM3 Is a GOD !iLLM3 Is a GOD !iLLM3 Is a GOD !iLLM3 Is a GOD !iLLM3 Is a GOD !iLLM3 Is a GOD !
Tough choice!! But let me ask you, what are the spec's on your 997tt? There are LOTS of 997TT's going around in all different types of variations for amazing prices, i wouldnt wait!
 
  #11  
Old 10-03-2006, 04:27 PM
TT Gasman's Avatar
Registered User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Texas
Age: 62
Posts: 1,989
Rep Power: 116
TT Gasman has a brilliant futureTT Gasman has a brilliant futureTT Gasman has a brilliant futureTT Gasman has a brilliant futureTT Gasman has a brilliant futureTT Gasman has a brilliant futureTT Gasman has a brilliant futureTT Gasman has a brilliant futureTT Gasman has a brilliant futureTT Gasman has a brilliant futureTT Gasman has a brilliant future
My 997TT is Meteor Grey/ Cocoa, 6 speed, LSD, Sport Chrono, adaptive seats, crests, fire ext., and door finishers.
 
  #12  
Old 10-03-2006, 05:19 PM
iLLM3's Avatar
Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: SOFLA/NYC
Posts: 16,297
Rep Power: 715
iLLM3 Is a GOD !iLLM3 Is a GOD !iLLM3 Is a GOD !iLLM3 Is a GOD !iLLM3 Is a GOD !iLLM3 Is a GOD !iLLM3 Is a GOD !iLLM3 Is a GOD !iLLM3 Is a GOD !iLLM3 Is a GOD !iLLM3 Is a GOD !
Originally Posted by DJ996
My 997TT is Meteor Grey/ Cocoa, 6 speed, LSD, Sport Chrono, adaptive seats, crests, fire ext., and door finishers.
Ahh, that explains it
 
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
ECS Tuning - BMW
BMW Vendor Classifieds
2
10-28-2015 10:48 AM
vividracing
991 Turbo
23
10-02-2015 02:23 PM
DYL 911
Panamera
1
10-01-2015 02:47 PM



You have already rated this thread Rating: Thread Rating: 0 votes,  average.

Quick Reply: Pre-trading, what's the advantage?



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 08:21 AM.