Top speed and acceleration: Veyron, Z06, LP640, SLR etc. and the 997TT
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10-26-2006 | 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by DJ
napo whats with all the deleted posts! 
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10-26-2006 | 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by nberry
Well the Z06 has a higher top speed and to my knowledge this is the only test showing the 997TT accelerating faster at higher speed than the Z06. It remains a very strange result. But then again this was a German magazine.
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10-26-2006 | 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by nberry
You failed to mention that according to this test the Z06 is faster in the 1/4 mile by almost 1/2 sec. and 2 sec faster up to 250km than the 997TT. This is the only test I am aware of that has the 997TT beating the Z06 from 250km to 300km. The Z06 has 25 more hp and is at least 300 lighter. Strange result. 
BTW, the test also showed the Ford GT beating the 997TT in all perf. test.
BTW, the test also showed the Ford GT beating the 997TT in all perf. test.
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Originally Posted by HotRodGuy
the viper is geared for something like 256 mph if i'm not mistaken. It's most likely the aero limits of the vert over the hardtop
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Most of the numbers add up, BUT the 599 and the SLR. I recently drove the SLR and its hard for me to believe that both the Murci and 599 would be 6-7 seconds ahead at 300kmh, and there is no way that a 4000lb 620hp Ferrari is going to be dead on with a Porsche CGT.
One thing it does show, is as speeds increase, the Lp640 distances itself substantially from the 997TT, being 9 seconds ahead at 300kmh, not like C4S had posted before that at higher speeds the 997TT is gaining on the Lp640.
One thing it does show, is as speeds increase, the Lp640 distances itself substantially from the 997TT, being 9 seconds ahead at 300kmh, not like C4S had posted before that at higher speeds the 997TT is gaining on the Lp640.
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10-27-2006 | 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by allanlambo
Most of the numbers add up, BUT the 599 and the SLR. I recently drove the SLR and its hard for me to believe that both the Murci and 599 would be 6-7 seconds ahead at 300kmh, and there is no way that a 4000lb 620hp Ferrari is going to be dead on with a Porsche CGT.
One thing it does show, is as speeds increase, the Lp640 distances itself substantially from the 997TT, being 9 seconds ahead at 300kmh, not like C4S had posted before that at higher speeds the 997TT is gaining on the Lp640.
One thing it does show, is as speeds increase, the Lp640 distances itself substantially from the 997TT, being 9 seconds ahead at 300kmh, not like C4S had posted before that at higher speeds the 997TT is gaining on the Lp640.
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10-27-2006 | 07:42 AM
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IMO you can't compare a 599 to a CGT...two difference classes of cars.
The 599 is supposed to be the new "outcoming" of the 575M Maranello while the Carrera GT is a supercar...you know I'm for the Porsche anyday but just uncomparable cars....
One is created to be a very fast GT while the other is definetely the road version of a race car.
The 599 is supposed to be the new "outcoming" of the 575M Maranello while the Carrera GT is a supercar...you know I'm for the Porsche anyday but just uncomparable cars....
One is created to be a very fast GT while the other is definetely the road version of a race car.
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Thanks for the info Erik.
This is how thorough all magazines should be with their tests. Unfortunately we only see a few.
Veyron 100-200: 4.9seconds! And it has done 4.8s somewhere else. Now THAT is power.
Has the RT12 been tested by AMS or AutoSport? Would you have a copy you can post of the numbers?
Thanks.
This is how thorough all magazines should be with their tests. Unfortunately we only see a few.
Veyron 100-200: 4.9seconds! And it has done 4.8s somewhere else. Now THAT is power.
Has the RT12 been tested by AMS or AutoSport? Would you have a copy you can post of the numbers?
Thanks.
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Originally Posted by allanlambo
Most of the numbers add up, BUT the 599 and the SLR. I recently drove the SLR and its hard for me to believe that both the Murci and 599 would be 6-7 seconds ahead at 300kmh, and there is no way that a 4000lb 620hp Ferrari is going to be dead on with a Porsche CGT.
One thing it does show, is as speeds increase, the Lp640 distances itself substantially from the 997TT, being 9 seconds ahead at 300kmh, not like C4S had posted before that at higher speeds the 997TT is gaining on the Lp640.
One thing it does show, is as speeds increase, the Lp640 distances itself substantially from the 997TT, being 9 seconds ahead at 300kmh, not like C4S had posted before that at higher speeds the 997TT is gaining on the Lp640.
The only cars that don't make sense are the 599 and the SLR but the coveted Lambo makes perfect sense.
Well here are some numbers for you allan:
LP 640:
Curb Weight per C&D-3850 lbs
HP-632 BHP
599:
Curb Weight per Ferrari NA-3482 lbs
HP-620 BHP
SLR:
Curb Weight per MBUSA-3734
HP-617 HP
(plus this car has a slow automatic old school transmission)
Result:
599GTB cracks 200 km/h in 10.3
LP640 cracks 200 km/h in 11.2 seconds - slow!
So what we have here is a perfect example of Ferrari BEATING Lamborghini. We also have a perfect example of you showing your obvious bias once again, which I really don't have a problem with, but I just wanted to point it out. The 599 numbers do seem to make sense if you take Curb Weights into account since it is lighter and more powerfull then the SLR.
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10-27-2006 | 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by dcl
The thing is, the 599 is alot more slippery than the CGT. I've read its has the most effecient aerodynamics of any Ferrari yet. Another thing to note is because the CGT is a track going supercar, its designers have created it too have as much downforce as possible, however when creating downforce you often get more drag. The 599, doesn't have have aggressive downforce design and thus would create less drag especially at high speed.
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10-27-2006 | 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Jean
Has the RT12 been tested by AMS or AutoSport? Would you have a copy you can post of the numbers?
Rt12 0-300 km/h 24.8 seconds anyway, so it would be the second fastest car on that list.