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Now the Carrera GT really has problems...
guys of Evo have you ever thought about testing both cars side by side?
 
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its what i asked to you... 12.3 isnt to high for the 997TT?
Not sure This is what the car did stock. The stock 0-60 times are in line with what a stock 997TT should run.
 
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My god!
Now the Carrera GT really has problems...
guys of Evo have you ever thought about testing both cars side by side?
That would be a video I will see what I can do. I have 2 friends with them so lets see what we can arrange
 
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Can we get some graphs or data run sheets? I would also love to see the 60 - 130 graph.
 
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This huge gain is from the stock engine with just mapping changes and exhaust changes?? Or did this include changing the turbo's?
 
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Makes you wonder why Porsche engineers leave so much power on the table. Is it an issue of durability? Nothing is free, everything involves compromise, so what are you giving up for this extra power??
 
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Originally Posted by Todd @ EVO
That would be a video I will see what I can do. I have 2 friends with them so lets see what we can arrange


hahah this will be a dream!!!

it will be very very very interesting!!!!
 
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Makes you wonder why Porsche engineers leave so much power on the table. Is it an issue of durability? Nothing is free, everything involves compromise, so what are you giving up for this extra power??
We cant assume that Porsche make every engine operate at 100% maximum efficiency or to its total potential. Almost every turbo car that I can think of has power waiting to be released via upping boost, leaning it out a bit if it runs pig rich etc. from the factory.

If your running good gas and the gains are had with the AFR's in check I'd say thats dead reliable.
 
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Originally Posted by xandi911
12.3 s 1/4 mile 997 tt stock isnt so high?
and with the stage 2 the car did 1 second LESS? strangeee
A 1 second & almost 10 mph gain in the 1/4 mile from a simple ECU/Exhaust/Intake swap is awesome. Once you get to numbers in the 11's & low 12's to knock time off gets more & more difficult.
 
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Originally Posted by Todd @ EVO
That would be a video I will see what I can do. I have 2 friends with them so lets see what we can arrange
Thank you very much friend...We are waiting for it...and oh!...you know you'd get a 5000 posts for that thread
 
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Amazing results Todd!!
 
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Originally Posted by brnsrgn
Makes you wonder why Porsche engineers leave so much power on the table. Is it an issue of durability? Nothing is free, everything involves compromise, so what are you giving up for this extra power??
Two reasons:
1. The lower tuning level minimizes thermal and mechanical stress to the car decreasing warranty claims, and
2. Nickle-and-diming the power upgrades instead of greater leaps coincides with the marketing strategy to make it easier to continue tuning the car further with subsequent iterations.

Not that I am pleased with or advocate this approach-otherwise, I wouldn't be here with my EVO-modded car obsessing on this forum about specs. of future 911Turbo releases and following this thread to see what Todd, Garrett et al have in store for 997TT upgrades.

In a perverse way, Porsche's incremental approach to tuning the 911Turbo, giving it lots of "reserve," fertilizes the aftermarket/tuning community, and we are fortunate to have a mature and active one here in the States.
 
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Still waiting on the graphs and the data logs........................................
 


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