"EVOlution of a 997TT" (Part 2) ~545 HP / 590 TQ
#46
Originally Posted by Crash
Were the times for a STOCK 997TT achieved with or without Sport Chrono?
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997TT Standing Mile = 234.6 MPH
997TT Standing 1/2 Mile = 217.09 MPH
Fastest 1/4 Mile = 9.29 @ 172.7 MPH
60-130 MPH Time = 3.28 Seconds
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997TT Standing Mile = 234.6 MPH
997TT Standing 1/2 Mile = 217.09 MPH
Fastest 1/4 Mile = 9.29 @ 172.7 MPH
60-130 MPH Time = 3.28 Seconds
#47
Originally Posted by Todd @ EVO
I just got back from doing some 0-60 / 0-100 MPH and 1/4 mile runs in the 997TT with our 545 HP/590TQ upgrade system. I am using a Driftbox GPS data logger which is a very accurate timing devise. More info about this unit can be found here:Driftbox Info I have video as well of the runs but since I was alone, they are not very good. Here are the results from my runs today as compared to stock and our stage 1 upgrade.
EVO 997TT 545 HP / 590 TQ
Best, Average
0-60: 3.2, 3.3
0-100: 7.2, 7.4
1/4 mile: 11.30 @ 126, 11.40 @125
EVO 997TT Stage 1
Best, Average
0-60: 3.4, 3.6
0-100: 8.9, 8.9
1/4 mile: 11.94 @ 121, 11.97 @ 120
STOCK 997TT
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0-60: 3.8, 3.9
0-100: 9.7, 9.8
1/4 mile: 12.27 @ 117, 12.35 @ 116
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Based on these results, the car is making some serious power. We will be releasing more information early next week.
EVO 997TT 545 HP / 590 TQ
Best, Average
0-60: 3.2, 3.3
0-100: 7.2, 7.4
1/4 mile: 11.30 @ 126, 11.40 @125
EVO 997TT Stage 1
Best, Average
0-60: 3.4, 3.6
0-100: 8.9, 8.9
1/4 mile: 11.94 @ 121, 11.97 @ 120
STOCK 997TT
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0-60: 3.8, 3.9
0-100: 9.7, 9.8
1/4 mile: 12.27 @ 117, 12.35 @ 116
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Based on these results, the car is making some serious power. We will be releasing more information early next week.
EVO 997TT 545 HP / 590 TQ
Best, Average
0-60: 3.3, 3.5
0-100: 7.5, 7.6
1/4 mile: 11.30 @ 126, 11.40 @125
I will post the graphs as soon as I can. We are in the middle of moving into our new facility and have all of my data transfer cables packed. Thank you KPG for the info and sample graph.
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997TT Standing Mile = 234.6 MPH
997TT Standing 1/2 Mile = 217.09 MPH
Fastest 1/4 Mile = 9.29 @ 172.7 MPH
60-130 MPH Time = 3.28 Seconds
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Home of the Worlds Fastest 997TT Porsche(s)
997TT Standing Mile = 234.6 MPH
997TT Standing 1/2 Mile = 217.09 MPH
Fastest 1/4 Mile = 9.29 @ 172.7 MPH
60-130 MPH Time = 3.28 Seconds
#49
Originally Posted by Todd @ EVO
OK, I am learning the Driftbox and graphing functions thanks to KPG. The original times that I posted for our 545 HP /590 TQ upgrade were incorrect. I had a 1 foot roll out feature enabled which is only for the 1/4 mile timing. I ran the car again tonight on my way home from work and here are the times with the 1 foot roll out disabled:
EVO 997TT 545 HP / 590 TQ
Best, Average
0-60: 3.3, 3.5
0-100: 7.5, 7.6
1/4 mile: 11.30 @ 126, 11.40 @125
I will post the graphs as soon as I can. We are in the middle of moving into our new facility and have all of my data transfer cables packed. Thank you KPG for the info and sample graph.
EVO 997TT 545 HP / 590 TQ
Best, Average
0-60: 3.3, 3.5
0-100: 7.5, 7.6
1/4 mile: 11.30 @ 126, 11.40 @125
I will post the graphs as soon as I can. We are in the middle of moving into our new facility and have all of my data transfer cables packed. Thank you KPG for the info and sample graph.
#50
Originally Posted by Todd @ EVO
STOCK 997TT
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0-60: 3.8, 3.9
0-100: 9.7, 9.8
1/4 mile: 12.27 @ 117, 12.35 @ 116
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0-60: 3.8, 3.9
0-100: 9.7, 9.8
1/4 mile: 12.27 @ 117, 12.35 @ 116
Here are the results from 3 different magazines on stock 997Turbos:
Auto Motor Und Sport (stock997TT) :
0-62mph: 3.7 s.
0-100mph:8.0s.
=> 62-100mph: 4.3s.
Sport Car (stock997TT):
0-62mph: 3.8 s.
0-100mph:8.4s.
=> 62-100mph: 4.6s.
Car Magazine (stock997TT):
0-62mph: 3.9 s.
0-100mph:8.2s.
=> 62-100mph: 4.3s.
Here is the 996TT X50:
0-62mph: 4.1 s.
0-100mph:8.5s.
=> 62-100mph: 4.4s.
And a stock 996TT (420HP)
0-62mph: 4.2 s.
0-100mph:9.4s.
=> 62-100mph: 5.2s.
EVOMS Stock (stock997TT) :
0-62mph: 3.8 s.
0-100mph:9.7s.
=> 60-100mph: 5.9s. This is slower than a stock 996TT by a bunch including a 0.1s from 60-62mph.
Hence why the modded car seems so much faster when compared to stock..What gives?
#52
Originally Posted by Jean
Maybe someone can explain this to me....with all the talk about errors in readings etc.. It does seem that something is really wrong with these numbers....
Here are the results from 3 different magazines on stock 997Turbos:
Auto Motor Und Sport (stock997TT) :
0-62mph: 3.7 s.
0-100mph:8.0s.
=> 62-100mph: 4.3s.
Sport Car (stock997TT):
0-62mph: 3.8 s.
0-100mph:8.4s.
=> 62-100mph: 4.6s.
Car Magazine (stock997TT):
0-62mph: 3.9 s.
0-100mph:8.2s.
=> 62-100mph: 4.3s.
Here is the 996TT X50:
0-62mph: 4.1 s.
0-100mph:8.5s.
=> 62-100mph: 4.4s.
And a stock 996TT (420HP)
0-62mph: 4.2 s.
0-100mph:9.4s.
=> 62-100mph: 5.2s.
EVOMS Stock (stock997TT) :
0-62mph: 3.8 s.
0-100mph:9.7s.
=> 60-100mph: 5.9s. This is slower than a stock 996TT by a bunch including a 0.1s from 60-62mph.
Hence why the modded car seems so much faster when compared to stock..What gives?
Here are the results from 3 different magazines on stock 997Turbos:
Auto Motor Und Sport (stock997TT) :
0-62mph: 3.7 s.
0-100mph:8.0s.
=> 62-100mph: 4.3s.
Sport Car (stock997TT):
0-62mph: 3.8 s.
0-100mph:8.4s.
=> 62-100mph: 4.6s.
Car Magazine (stock997TT):
0-62mph: 3.9 s.
0-100mph:8.2s.
=> 62-100mph: 4.3s.
Here is the 996TT X50:
0-62mph: 4.1 s.
0-100mph:8.5s.
=> 62-100mph: 4.4s.
And a stock 996TT (420HP)
0-62mph: 4.2 s.
0-100mph:9.4s.
=> 62-100mph: 5.2s.
EVOMS Stock (stock997TT) :
0-62mph: 3.8 s.
0-100mph:9.7s.
=> 60-100mph: 5.9s. This is slower than a stock 996TT by a bunch including a 0.1s from 60-62mph.
Hence why the modded car seems so much faster when compared to stock..What gives?
I guess that as with anything, there are no absolute ways to compare with 100% accuracy. The dyno tests cannot be compared due to different dynos / operators, the driving tests cannot be compared due to different equipment, methods of use and or drivers / methods. I think now that I have more seat time in the car, my stock numbers could be improved upon slightly. The other consideration is my testing in my conditions may not be an apple to apples comparison to the magazines that you mentioned. Bottom line the way I see it is all of this data is good but will never be a 100% absolute science.
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Home of the Worlds Fastest 997TT Porsche(s)
997TT Standing Mile = 234.6 MPH
997TT Standing 1/2 Mile = 217.09 MPH
Fastest 1/4 Mile = 9.29 @ 172.7 MPH
60-130 MPH Time = 3.28 Seconds
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P: 480.317.9911
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Home of the Worlds Fastest 997TT Porsche(s)
997TT Standing Mile = 234.6 MPH
997TT Standing 1/2 Mile = 217.09 MPH
Fastest 1/4 Mile = 9.29 @ 172.7 MPH
60-130 MPH Time = 3.28 Seconds
#53
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Yes it did after I downloaded the graphs and received some guidance from KPG. This is when I decided to check and change the settings and retest the car with the changed 1 foot roll out feature. When I had been using the driftbox prior to this discovery, I was resetting the driftbox in between every run and just writing down the results that were displayed on the unit itself. It does not show any data besides the 0-60, 0-100, etc times for that specific run.
Originally Posted by 9Eleven
I'm glad that you discovered the roll out error. The data log would have clued you in when it indicated that the car was moving at 4 miles an hour with a 0 feet distance travelled. Looking forward to the results.
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Home of the Worlds Fastest 997TT Porsche(s)
997TT Standing Mile = 234.6 MPH
997TT Standing 1/2 Mile = 217.09 MPH
Fastest 1/4 Mile = 9.29 @ 172.7 MPH
60-130 MPH Time = 3.28 Seconds
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EVOMSit - intelligent tuning |www.evomsit.com
P: 480.317.9911
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Home of the Worlds Fastest 997TT Porsche(s)
997TT Standing Mile = 234.6 MPH
997TT Standing 1/2 Mile = 217.09 MPH
Fastest 1/4 Mile = 9.29 @ 172.7 MPH
60-130 MPH Time = 3.28 Seconds
#54
Originally Posted by TestnDoc
Todd,
Do you plan to do any work with a tiptronic 997TT?? That would be very interesting. Might be close to a 3.0 sec 0 to 60??
Do you plan to do any work with a tiptronic 997TT?? That would be very interesting. Might be close to a 3.0 sec 0 to 60??
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Home of the Worlds Fastest 997TT Porsche(s)
997TT Standing Mile = 234.6 MPH
997TT Standing 1/2 Mile = 217.09 MPH
Fastest 1/4 Mile = 9.29 @ 172.7 MPH
60-130 MPH Time = 3.28 Seconds
Evolution MotorSports | www.evoms.com
EVOMSit - intelligent tuning |www.evomsit.com
P: 480.317.9911
F: 480.317.9901
E: info@evoms.com
Home of the Worlds Fastest 997TT Porsche(s)
997TT Standing Mile = 234.6 MPH
997TT Standing 1/2 Mile = 217.09 MPH
Fastest 1/4 Mile = 9.29 @ 172.7 MPH
60-130 MPH Time = 3.28 Seconds
#56
Todd, I agree.
A difference of a couple of tenths can certainly be due to many external factors, but here we have three different magazines being quite close to each other, and your run was about 28% off the slowest run, that's over 130hp difference alone when comparing between stock and "tuned" side by side..
As you said, your stock runs seem to have been quite slow.
I grabbed a bone stock 993TT last night and did many GPS runs, my times were almost spot-on with a magazine test that was published back at the time.. 10 years later. Differences can only be small, certainly not of that magnitude. I cannot post the comparison now for some reason, I will upload it later.
A difference of a couple of tenths can certainly be due to many external factors, but here we have three different magazines being quite close to each other, and your run was about 28% off the slowest run, that's over 130hp difference alone when comparing between stock and "tuned" side by side..
As you said, your stock runs seem to have been quite slow.
I grabbed a bone stock 993TT last night and did many GPS runs, my times were almost spot-on with a magazine test that was published back at the time.. 10 years later. Differences can only be small, certainly not of that magnitude. I cannot post the comparison now for some reason, I will upload it later.
Last edited by Jean; 11-06-2006 at 10:22 AM.
#57
Originally Posted by Todd @ EVO
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Yes it did after I downloaded the graphs and received some guidance from KPG. This is when I decided to check and change the settings and retest the car with the changed 1 foot roll out feature. When I had been using the driftbox prior to this discovery, I was resetting the driftbox in between every run and just writing down the results that were displayed on the unit itself. It does not show any data besides the 0-60, 0-100, etc times for that specific run.
Yes it did after I downloaded the graphs and received some guidance from KPG. This is when I decided to check and change the settings and retest the car with the changed 1 foot roll out feature. When I had been using the driftbox prior to this discovery, I was resetting the driftbox in between every run and just writing down the results that were displayed on the unit itself. It does not show any data besides the 0-60, 0-100, etc times for that specific run.
Last edited by KPG; 11-06-2006 at 09:09 PM.