Seriously considering a 993TT instead....
#32
Chris
i'm with docjackson here. go for the 993tt ... you can always get an used 997tt later at a good price or take the money you saved and buy a track car.
having moved from a 993tt to a 997tt, i sorta miss the soul and rawness of the 993tt. the 993tt is more of a beast ... noiser, less electronic driving aids, more kick from the turbos and i think more fun to drive. it's the difference between a "classic" porsche and a "modern" one.
however, the 993tt is going to look and feel very dated compared to your 996c4s and your "soon to arrive" 997tt. if you are tall or have long legs, the 993 could feel uncomfortable. you will need to change a couple of things on the 993tt such as:
- replace the buick steering wheel with a smaller 3 spoke wheel (helps with leg clearance)
- add lowering springs or coilovers to eliminate that 4x4 look
- change the exhaust to reduce turbo lag
remember this is a 10 year old car, so there will be more maintenance involved. there are a few problems with the 993tt to check for:
- twisted main gear shaft (listen for whinning noise in 1st gear)
- worn lifters - listen for tapping noise when it's warmed up - lifter replacement is fairly cheap by porsche standards
- leaky oil return lines (there are aftermkt versions that stop backfill into the cylinder heads when the car is sitting for a long periods of time)
- reputed cooling issues with front 2 cylinders (remove the engine cover and rear transmission covers)
good luck with your decision. you can't go wrong with either car.
i'm with docjackson here. go for the 993tt ... you can always get an used 997tt later at a good price or take the money you saved and buy a track car.
having moved from a 993tt to a 997tt, i sorta miss the soul and rawness of the 993tt. the 993tt is more of a beast ... noiser, less electronic driving aids, more kick from the turbos and i think more fun to drive. it's the difference between a "classic" porsche and a "modern" one.
however, the 993tt is going to look and feel very dated compared to your 996c4s and your "soon to arrive" 997tt. if you are tall or have long legs, the 993 could feel uncomfortable. you will need to change a couple of things on the 993tt such as:
- replace the buick steering wheel with a smaller 3 spoke wheel (helps with leg clearance)
- add lowering springs or coilovers to eliminate that 4x4 look
- change the exhaust to reduce turbo lag
remember this is a 10 year old car, so there will be more maintenance involved. there are a few problems with the 993tt to check for:
- twisted main gear shaft (listen for whinning noise in 1st gear)
- worn lifters - listen for tapping noise when it's warmed up - lifter replacement is fairly cheap by porsche standards
- leaky oil return lines (there are aftermkt versions that stop backfill into the cylinder heads when the car is sitting for a long periods of time)
- reputed cooling issues with front 2 cylinders (remove the engine cover and rear transmission covers)
good luck with your decision. you can't go wrong with either car.
Last edited by golfguy; 03-08-2007 at 09:41 AM.
#36
The problem is it's already had about 20k worth of repairs by a second /third tier shop, so there are a few things to consider. If I pass, I'll forward the guys info to whoever wants it. Still a great car, I love the way the doors close with a click!
#37
Originally Posted by Hussain
Do both. Buy the 993 and lease the 997. Drive the 997 on the weekdays and the 993 on the weekends.
I would however thoroughly go through the 993, and would still look for one even if it wasn't your friends. However I would not pass up on the 997. While you're at it, might as well look for a 993TTS and 1994 911 Turbo 3.6 Litre.
Last edited by Hernando; 03-08-2007 at 12:26 PM.
#39
Hi Chris, most Type-A surgeons and procedure oriented docs I know and work with are very much into precision and ergonomics. Take the steering for example, which is more sensitive, precise, and linear? I have not driven a 993TT, so I cannot say. Just offering something for you to consider. How much have you driven the 993TT?...will its dated/worn tactile qualities disappoint once the aura of the legend wears off?
Just $.02 from a precision junky.
Just $.02 from a precision junky.
#40
Originally Posted by amirgt2
Vincent,
It's an Andial 3.8L with dual programming. 570 HP on regular gas and 630HP on 100 Octane.
Amir
It's an Andial 3.8L with dual programming. 570 HP on regular gas and 630HP on 100 Octane.
Amir
Last edited by vincentdds; 03-09-2007 at 12:22 AM.
#41
Originally Posted by Texas911
What soul are you guys talking about? The archaic driving position? The lack of safety equipment? The oil leaks? Or maybe its the unrestrained power that can get you into trouble in a hurry?
Yep. All that and more. There's just something really fun about driving these "older" models. There is an aura about them, but it comes from inside my head, I'll admit. That being said, I LOVE my 997TT.
#42
Originally Posted by Texas911
What soul are you guys talking about? The archaic driving position? The lack of safety equipment? The oil leaks? Or maybe its the unrestrained power that can get you into trouble in a hurry?
And def. Yes on the last one.
I said "soul" because the older Porsche's were raw unrestrained power that YOU the driver was supposed to control and master, and not have some preprogrammed techno sensor telling me I cant.
I had a 997TT for all the 2 months, great engine, good power but no fun unless it was driven like I stole it. I dont need a daily driver 2 door sports coupe to be that docile and lactose intolerant. But the car failed to awe me in the sense I think (personally) a Porsche turbo should.
Was I spoiled by my 996GT2, hell yes. But that is what a Porsche 911Turbo is supposed to do to your soul and thats stir it.
The 993TT is an icon much like the previous generation 911 Turbo's were, not as raw and natural and unforgiving as the 930 was but still had the ***** and wasnt afraid to show them.
Hey you happy with your 997TT? Great, more power to you. I want/need more of the let me drive/control the sports car than let the car drive/control me.
But thats just my opinion and the only one that matters for me.
#43
C4S-
Why not buy a 993TT S instead? Here is one incredibly beautiful rare car, that I am thinking about buying, except that the asking price is about $25,000 over that of the original MSRP ($155K versus $179K) for a 10 year-old car:
http://www.rpmsportscars.com/door28.htm
I am sorely tempted. I claim first dibs, if I can get the price down. And it may lack that precision that crazed freaks that perform microneurosurgery of the skull base crave.
-Gerry
Why not buy a 993TT S instead? Here is one incredibly beautiful rare car, that I am thinking about buying, except that the asking price is about $25,000 over that of the original MSRP ($155K versus $179K) for a 10 year-old car:
http://www.rpmsportscars.com/door28.htm
I am sorely tempted. I claim first dibs, if I can get the price down. And it may lack that precision that crazed freaks that perform microneurosurgery of the skull base crave.
-Gerry
#45
Doesn't the 993 TT have all wheel drive? ABS? Those don't sound like a raw unrestrained car to me. You need to go back further in the line for that. I think its fine to own a classic Porsche, but to me, I'd rather have performace that a modern car gives you, without having to worry about, a top end rebuild, or an oil leak, or a belt that going to break.
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post