Florida Porsche Dealer Finance Manager Hangs up on me while negotiating!
#16
03-09-2007, 04:34 PM
Originally Posted by Tony (FL)
I've always been treated well from Braman, so no complaints here.
I also have been looking for a 997TT but haven't bought one because I want a Tip. I'm probably going to put a back up deposit on this one in case the deal falls through.
I also have been looking for a 997TT but haven't bought one because I want a Tip. I'm probably going to put a back up deposit on this one in case the deal falls through.
#17
03-09-2007, 05:06 PM
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Location: S. Florida
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Originally Posted by Tony (FL)
I've always been treated well from Braman, so no complaints here.
I also have been looking for a 997TT but haven't bought one because I want a Tip. I'm probably going to put a back up deposit on this one in case the deal falls through.
I also have been looking for a 997TT but haven't bought one because I want a Tip. I'm probably going to put a back up deposit on this one in case the deal falls through.
#18
03-09-2007, 05:13 PM
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: S. Florida
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Originally Posted by alex911s
There's no way you can do anything about the rate.. my score is almost 800
and I cant even negotiate with porsche.. they always have the worst money factor...plus what's .0004 difference?, you want the car buy it...
Even Leasecompare is .0035 and .0037.. goodluck
and I cant even negotiate with porsche.. they always have the worst money factor...plus what's .0004 difference?, you want the car buy it...
Even Leasecompare is .0035 and .0037.. goodluck
I just spoke with LeaseCompare today - even though their money factor was lower than the money factor I was quoted by my dealer ... their monthly payment was higher than Porsche Financial Services. The LeaseCompare representative told me this was because their 'Bank A Porsche Lender' (the lender who gave great rates on Porsche's) was not participating in the program anymore. Whether that is temporary or permanent I do not know, but the bottom line was LeaseCompare was more expensive than the Dealer.
#19
03-09-2007, 05:27 PM
Originally Posted by YesItsLoaded
Sure I can and did have the rate lowered ... not below the buy-rate, but below their original offer to me.
I just spoke with LeaseCompare today - even though their money factor was lower than the money factor I was quoted by my dealer ... their monthly payment was higher than Porsche Financial Services. The LeaseCompare representative told me this was because their 'Bank A Porsche Lender' (the lender who gave great rates on Porsche's) was not participating in the program anymore. Whether that is temporary or permanent I do not know, but the bottom line was LeaseCompare was more expensive than the Dealer.
I just spoke with LeaseCompare today - even though their money factor was lower than the money factor I was quoted by my dealer ... their monthly payment was higher than Porsche Financial Services. The LeaseCompare representative told me this was because their 'Bank A Porsche Lender' (the lender who gave great rates on Porsche's) was not participating in the program anymore. Whether that is temporary or permanent I do not know, but the bottom line was LeaseCompare was more expensive than the Dealer.
#20
03-09-2007, 05:33 PM
I am sorry but I have to laugh that he hung up on you. Why get so offended because at least he said goodbye. Hang ups are good because sometimes they help end a situation that is going no where. They also help the person on the receiving end understand that no one sits on a throne. Sorry for my comments and you can take it personally but don't waste your energy over that. Just buy the car or don't.
Aloha
Byron
P.S. I don't sell cars so I am not defending anyone. If you want to flame me go right ahead.
Aloha
Byron
P.S. I don't sell cars so I am not defending anyone. If you want to flame me go right ahead.
#21
03-09-2007, 05:37 PM
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: S. Florida
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Originally Posted by Marc997GT3
I have dealt with Braman through 2 cars in the past 3 weeks and the finance person, Carina, has helped me on both occassions she was always curteous and kind and everyone in that dealership from the GM (Sid) to my Salesperson Peter Sil has always treated me with respect, maybe there is another issue under all of this...was your credit score good enough to support that rate? That is a huge factor...
I had a wonderful face to face conversation with Carina (sp?) yesterday and came away absolutely satisfied. My salesman Chip sits next to Peter and both have been a pleasure to deal with over the course of specifying and ordering my TT. Today, I called Carina, told her I would not take the offer she made to me yesterday, but given that I was paying MSRP and all ridiculous bank and application fees, I would want the buy rate as my money factor. After telling me "we do not do that" she hung up on me. My salesman saved the day by calling me right back and offering me a deal. I told him I'd think about it.
I did absolutely nothing to elicit her conduct, and while I realize that everyone (including myself) has a bad day once in a while, her conduct was uncalled for given the circumstances.
I have had a consistent mid to upper 700 score for decades, no derogatory's, lates or bankruptcies ... never been late on an automobile payment ... ever. I'm pretty sure credit isn't the issue.
#23
03-09-2007, 05:41 PM
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: S. Florida
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Originally Posted by docjackson1
their residual must have been lower than porsche
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</TD><TD onclick="selectQuote('FAIR','36');" align=middle>36 months</TD><TD onclick="selectQuote('FAIR','36');" align=middle>$48,304</TD><TD onclick="selectQuote('FAIR','36');" align=middle>0.00402</TD><TD id=tdFAIR_36 onclick="selectQuote('FAIR','36');" align=middle bgColor=#dbf582>$2,925
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PFS: 36 months/$69850/.0038/$2383
#24
03-09-2007, 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by DJ
Some story here, good luck and hope it works out and you have some pics to post soon!
Had a few people step-up, but realized I just don't want to drive anything else. I'm sure Braman and I can work something out.
#25
03-09-2007, 09:55 PM
I would skip on the deal and go somewhere else. I would not do business with a person/company that would hang up on a customer. When buying anything I feel customer service is key and with that treatment I would just walk. I would also call up Porsche NA to put a formal compliant in. And ask them to make sure the regional rep calls your back. Tell him/her what happened and Porsche can take care of it from there. As well I'm sure the rep would make sure that you get your car and from the right dealer.
#26
03-09-2007, 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Texas911
Hopefully, the dealer isn't reading this message board.
That don't have much else to do because they all suk. I have bought 5 cars from them, a combo of P and BMW, (They are just about a block apart on Okeechobee Blvd) and after my last mess I will goto Champion even though that means a 45 min hike South.
Just tell them youll be going to Champion to get your car.
#27
03-09-2007, 10:35 PM
Originally Posted by pyiu
I would skip on the deal and go somewhere else. I would not do business with a person/company that would hang up on a customer. When buying anything I feel customer service is key and with that treatment I would just walk. I would also call up Porsche NA to put a formal compliant in. And ask them to make sure the regional rep calls your back. Tell him/her what happened and Porsche can take care of it from there. As well I'm sure the rep would make sure that you get your car and from the right dealer.
#28
03-09-2007, 11:52 PM
Originally Posted by pyiu
I would skip on the deal and go somewhere else. I would not do business with a person/company that would hang up on a customer. When buying anything I feel customer service is key and with that treatment I would just walk. I would also call up Porsche NA to put a formal compliant in. And ask them to make sure the regional rep calls your back. Tell him/her what happened and Porsche can take care of it from there. As well I'm sure the rep would make sure that you get your car and from the right dealer.
