What's clear is that you're confusing 60-130 mph and 100-200 kph.

The US 650-700 HP cars are running mid to high 6's 60-130 mph, which equals high 5's/low 6's 100-200 kph. You ran a 8.2 60-130 mph is over a second slower than they are running.

In a nutshell, we have 650 HP US tuned cars that are running over 1.3 seconds faster than you are from 60-130 mph.

The octane level of your euro pump fuel is the pretty much already considered race gas. We'll see how you do...but remember, you're competing against US cars with a measly 650 HP.

 

I'm not confusing anything. I don't have 60-130 runs, so i can talk over 100-200 runs. but i will do a special 60-130 for you, and will show you the real thing

100-200 km/h, a 650 hp kit(us tuners tell the exact same kit is 700hp ) runs 100-200 overall 6,4 - 6,5 seconds. Best is close to 6. I'm expecting the same from Stage 3, and that is not slower than any 700 kit. None of the cars can run same every time.

That 8.2 is not something to compare. I did 6.6 100-200 km/h as my best run, you can tell what the 60-130 mph run can be based on 100-200.


You gotta be kidding me Our best fuel is 100 octane as I've said before. I can say your race fuel is equal to about 120 octanes according to our octane measurements That can lead at least 0.2 difference.

 

7.7 was my best. I ran 7.8, 7.8, 7.7, 7.9 at one event with hot lapping - no cooldown. Unlike a tip, the biggest factor is my shifting.

 

Umm...I have a 60-130 run that you sent it to me the other day for review. It's an 8.2 and it's posted at the bottom of this post.

Wrong again. I have a file of a US tuner 650 HP kit running 5.99 100-200 kph (62.1-124.2 mph). It's posted next to your 8.2 60-130 file.

Okay..send me your fastest file. I'll be happy to post it. But even if you did run a 6.6 100-200 on your best rurn, the 5.99 100-200 run that's posted below from a 650 HP car beats it by 7/10's of a second...which would be a full second faster from 60-130. He also had to shift from 3rd to 4th and deal with a loss in boost during that shift. You have a TIP, which gives you significant advantage....but you're still slower.

Are we done yet?

Most of the guys on ths forum that run "race" fuel run 100-103 octane unleaded. So the difference is negligible.

 

I didn't especially go for a 60-130 mph run, all data on my performance box are for the measurements in KM.

It runs 5.99 every time? I said overall..


Because my car is stage 2 now, could that be the reason for it's slower? The car that's faster than me is stage 3

I'll look into my pbox for 6.6.



We'll be done after I get stage 3 nowadays and do several tests

Our 100 octane is not the same with those 100-103 octanes unfortunately.. You can look up over the internet about the fuel quality in Turkey, so you'll have a better opinion

 

Well, he's pretty much faster than your best every time. But no, not 5.99s on each run.

I really don't care what "Stage" your car is. You are arguing that euro HP is faster than equivelant US HP. So far, I've proved you wrong.

When you run a 5.99 100-200 kph with less than 650 HP..then we'll talk.

 

Guru, let your pbox-data speak for you car!

go out, do some runs with shell100 and try to find a slight downhill with ~2% that will help alot. try to vary with the speed you begin to accel!!
Then post the best runs and email to the list maintainers.

but what do you expect from stock VTGs?
you are ~1 Sek. faster than a stock 997tt!

BTW:
I am not sure if the tiptronic is really an advantage for a flying start like 100-200 or 60-130. the torque converter usually has some losses to consider.
Main advantage should be standing starts an reproducibility of times and results.

 

Well, than we are going to have a good talk very soon and I guess somebody will learn what a "provement" is

 

RS38: I'll do some runs with my current car ASAP, and do the same runs after i get my FVD stage 3. I'm not saying anything anymore, the numbers will speak for themselves

As I've said before, I'm confident that european kits will do the same, if not better, than americans with the SAME fuel..and european kits claim their kit is around 610-640 hp, americans claim that its 700

 

Unless the euro cars are running water injection, I'll tell you right now you're wrong. The euro guys don't have any magical tuning secrets that we don't.

A true US 700 car will destroy a Euro 610-640 hp car. Woodtster's 650-675 HP, full weight AWD 996TT went faster at the Texas mile than a RUF RT-12, ran a faster 60-130 and a faster 1/4 mile trap.

Now, if the euro tuners are running water injection (which I've heard that many of them are), then that changes things entirely....and completely dimisses the "same fuel" argument.

 

Do not forget this

 

LOL...I won't.

 

Scott has proven numerous times that euro cars are not any faster than USA cars , in fact the opposite seems to be true. I would have to say that RUF has to be the top dog of euro tuners, that been said Scott has given the results of a USA ( woodsters PE 700) car vs a euro(RUF RT 12)car.Woodster spanked the Euro car easily.
I was at the Texas Mile when the RT 12 ran a best of 180ish,Woodster ran a best of 191ish. The 2 cars are not even in the same ball park.

 

I am not from US nor europe,but I think the US tuners are not joking or overclaiming their HP.The european kit are awesome as well but most of them are just overpriced because the 997 turbo is more expensive to buy in EUROPE than USA so the european owners might have deeper pocket!!Thats why they want you to buy larger VTG turbos so earlier!!Remember more cost from you= more profit gain for them!!Of course for the other hand,bigger turbos are good for power/cooling/engine life plus everything!but I still believe I can pay less and get more power from US tuners.

 

The AWE 700 car was also faster (186mph into a 20mph headwind) than the Rt12 (183 mph with no headwind) at the Texas Mile