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Notice what happened in the twisties?
yea, i did, did you realize the csl weighs about 600-700 lbs less and had r compunds compared to normal street tires on the 997TT?
 
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Nevertheless the weight difference, I still found the TT to be pretty bouncy in the corners, and the M3CSL had incredible entry speed compared to the TT

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Originally Posted by Mike2727
Nevertheless the weight difference, I still found the TT to be pretty bouncy in the corners, and the M3CSL had incredible entry speed compared to the TT

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I saw the same thing: turbo bouncing around in the corners, looked like a handful, csl smooth as silk at higher corner speed. I did not always understand the line taken by the turbo.
 
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Makes me wonder how they ever got to 7:40 on a stock TT, either they tuned it differently or it was a one off

I can imagine why Porsche wants to differentiate between the different variations (997/997S, TT, GT3, GT2) but why not make the TT behave better handling wise since it is the only AWD besides the C4S

I would have expected better handling from the TT, and even if it would handle better it would still not take away anything from the GT2 or GT3

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That TT is fast as hell.
 
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Originally Posted by Erik
I think the 997TT in the video is on normal street tires and the CSL is on r-tires (Michelin PS Cup).

Still in Sport Auto lap times the CSL is a few seconds faster (4) than the 997TT (same tires).

M3 CSL
http://www.einszweidrei.de/bmw/m3cslst2003-1.htm

997TT
http://www.einszweidrei.de/porsche/p...bost2007-1.htm
Very interesting. The CSL is quicker than the turbo at the Nurburing, but the turbo is quicker at Hockenhiem. I would think it would the othe way around.
 
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bmw csl ftw!
 
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoEwMfSNuCg

Nordschlefie backwards in the CSL.
 
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both cars are sick
 
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Nice video, but why was it in slow motion ?

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Great video...I definitely gotta hit the Nurburgring...

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That vid would be great in HD in a big screen, with the sound fixed.
Can someone tell me the trans of the csl? On the inside vid I don't see shifting.
 
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Originally Posted by neil.schneider
That vid would be great in HD in a big screen, with the sound fixed.
Can someone tell me the trans of the csl? On the inside vid I don't see shifting.
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Originally Posted by Erik
I think the 997TT in the video is on normal street tires and the CSL is on r-tires (Michelin PS Cup).

Still in Sport Auto lap times the CSL is a few seconds faster (4) than the 997TT (same tires).

M3 CSL
http://www.einszweidrei.de/bmw/m3cslst2003-1.htm

997TT
http://www.einszweidrei.de/porsche/p...bost2007-1.htm
The time for 997 Turbo is incorrect. The correct time for Porsche 997 Turbo on the ring is set by Walter Rohrl and it is 7:40.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordschleife_fastest_lap_times

BMW m3CSL is no match for a 997T or 996T even as Walter drove that at 7.48.
 
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nice vid thanks!!!!
 
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