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Talking Video: Nordschleife Hardcore - BMW M3 CSL following a 997 Turbo
Sport Auto recently arranged "Nordschleife Hardcore".

This is a video of a BMW M3 CSL (stock) with my friend driving, following a 997TT.

The driver of the 997TT is the instructor, Wolfgang Kaufmann. He's a professional race driver (try google if you want to know more about him). Group 1 means the fastest group. Still they have to wait for the Ferraris

Sorry about the sound, apparently the cam and the microphone are attached. Takes a while before they step on it, but fasten you seatbelts and enjoy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpvYuKno5Hk
 
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Great video. Your friend is very smooth and takes a great line!
 
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wow...csl was nice but that 997 turbo just flew...literally just took off like an airplane on the csl...nice video!
 
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wow...csl was nice but that 997 turbo just flew...literally just took off like an airplane on the csl...nice video!
Notice what happened in the twisties?
 
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Old 07-17-2007, 11:42 PM
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I guess the conclusion is that the 997TT flies on the straights, but has a harder life in the corners vs the CSL.

Remember the CLS only has 360 hp.

Another film where you can see the steering wheel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L--WZ3m90UA

His BMW M3 CSL. Remember BMW "Art Cars"?



 
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really nice CSL
 
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sweet CSL. I wonder what suspension mods it has? His entry speeds were phenomenal!
 
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The CSL is stock apart from maybe camber etc.
 
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The CSL is stock apart from maybe camber etc.
Incredible. A real giant killer! The new M3 can only be a step backwards
 
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Nice video. Maybe I saw a different one. From my point of view the 997TT, (i.e. the instructor in a lead /follow format), clearly has to slow down to allow the 430 and the slower(student) csl m3 to catch up. I would not draw any conclusion that a m3 is somehow superior to a TT anywhere on that track, straights or twisties. Great video.
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Great vid. Thanks for posting. Sweet driving by your friend. Love the part about having to wait for the F-cars...LOL
 
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I think the 997TT in the video is on normal street tires and the CSL is on r-tires (Michelin PS Cup).

Still in Sport Auto lap times the CSL is a few seconds faster (4) than the 997TT (same tires).

M3 CSL
http://www.einszweidrei.de/bmw/m3cslst2003-1.htm

997TT
http://www.einszweidrei.de/porsche/p...bost2007-1.htm
 
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Nice video either way. Thanks for posting that.
 
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