Choosing between Champion and Techart. I hear Champions are made by H&R. Looking for the best possible ride while having improved appearance compared to stock.
Thanks for your opinions.

 

Facing the same dilemma. How much does each set lower the car?

 

I am in the same boat. The TechArt - 20mm and the H&R(Champion) 1-1.25 inches(when I spoke with Champion).

I like the 1-1.25 inch drop but the problem is some people have reported that its too short of a spring and it is not as compliant in the ride as the TechArts. Although H&R has been around the block for a while now and they usually produce a very good product and don't half *** the spring rates/design.

I am waiting for the Bilstein PSS9's to come out but its only showing up in the Euro market right now from what I have read. Nothing here yet.

I just want to see where the price point falls because TechArt being $7.5K and the RinSpeed Bilsteins $5.5K.

I have a good connection for Bilsteins so I am waiting to see what price point it will fall into before I decide. The costs of getting springs now is not the problem its the cost of the labor to replace them if I don't like them. Do that twice and you are looking at wasted money.

 

The Techarts have a higher rate than stock, whereas the H&R/Champion is a softer rate than stock. I chose the Techarts over the H&R's because they are progressive rates (more comfortable) and don't make that coil-binding noise that some H&R's do

 

Eclou - you don't have time to answer. Don't you have some band sawing to do?

Okay techarts it is. I relooked at your drop with the TA's and they look good. I will go with them then.

 

H&R have a softer rate? Would that mean that the H&R would actually ride better? I thought the H&R had a higher rate. And I have seen pictures of the Champions and they looked like progressive rate springs. Anybody else can confirm all this info?

Thanks.

 

Spring rates for these guys is like the colonels recipe for his fried chicken - they wont tell ya!

 

Fabryce at GMG knows all the rates

 

yeah but he won't release them

I guess the Eibachs are coming 8/15/07 - that are suppose to be better than TechArts?

He said it was something he was working with exclusively with Eibach.

 

Intrax / Hartmann close to GMG has a machine that can measure spring rates. If you $$$ really want to know Im sure he could run it for ya and print it out.

 

Fabryce told me the factory spring rates F/R are in the 200/300# range, the Techarts about 300/500#, their new GMG springs will be in the upper 450/600# range.

 

i have cargraphic springs on mine and i got no complaints. Under sport mode, it is just perfect for everyday drving

 

getting techart for my 2008 TT

 

Eibach makes the springs for Techart. It is stamped on the springs
Not sure of the rate differences tho

 

How much do the Cargraphics lower the car?

MM