PS2 or RE050A?
#16
I just replaced my PS2s with RE050 N whatevers and I've been happy with the Bridgestones. Better in the wet and less noisy.
Ultimate dry grip - the PS2s may get the nod but I don't really care about that for my street tires - I'll have a separate set of R compounds for serious stuff.
Ultimate dry grip - the PS2s may get the nod but I don't really care about that for my street tires - I'll have a separate set of R compounds for serious stuff.
#17
Same tread configuration. The older S-03 Pole Position was a directional tire, and you may be confusing it with the new one. Plus, I have personally sold Ben both tires so I would consider his input pretty valuable.
The truth of the matter is 90% of you guys won't outdrive the capability of any of them. RE050A, RE050APP (yes, they are different), and the PS2. Until the PP came out I sold more Michelin by a landslide because they were far and away the best. But frankly the new Bridgestones are darn good tires and as good for 90% of what you can legally throw at them. The Michelin may wear a bit better and have slightly better ultimate cornering response, the Bridgestone will be a bit better in ride quality and will be better in the rain because of their rubber compound. All three of them rock.
Calm down fellas, any of them will take clover leafs at 75 with no troubles. If I were buying them, I'd probably go Bridgestone myself, because wet weather traction on a steamroller of a back tire is a bigger issue to me than ultimate dry traction I'll never use anyway.
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#19
Hi Damon, I was waiting for you to chime in.
You're correct - I was basing my info on what i knew about them 12 + months ago from when i had to purchase new tires for the S2K but i remember someone pointing that out to me.
You're correct - I was basing my info on what i knew about them 12 + months ago from when i had to purchase new tires for the S2K but i remember someone pointing that out to me.
#20
I've run several sets of each on several different vehicles.
The characteristics of a given car will affect how each tire feels and reacts, though based on my experiences the PS2 is the superior tire. The RE050APP's are a better wet tire, especially on a light rear wheel drive car, and unless you're really cooking it into every given corner, you're probably not going to find a better conventional tire in the dry either for that type of vehicle.
Now, that said, one situation in which I've found the PS2's to have a clear advantage is in an AWD application, specifically with a well set up suspension. I run them on my daily driver rally car, which runs a considerable amount of camber front and rear, zero front toe, touch of rear toe out-- in a word it's set up to turn quickly. The PS2 inspires considerably more confidence, and almost never "hops" be it in a slide or a launch. I found that the RE050APP's had a considerable tendency to hop around and grab on the AWD cars I've run them on, where the PS2's do not, instead they have a linear feedback right up to the point they slide or otherwise let go.
So, for a RWD car, especially one that sees a lot of rain, I'd go with the RE050APP's (maybe with a set of pilot cups on different wheels for the track). For an AWD car, the PS2's.
The characteristics of a given car will affect how each tire feels and reacts, though based on my experiences the PS2 is the superior tire. The RE050APP's are a better wet tire, especially on a light rear wheel drive car, and unless you're really cooking it into every given corner, you're probably not going to find a better conventional tire in the dry either for that type of vehicle.
Now, that said, one situation in which I've found the PS2's to have a clear advantage is in an AWD application, specifically with a well set up suspension. I run them on my daily driver rally car, which runs a considerable amount of camber front and rear, zero front toe, touch of rear toe out-- in a word it's set up to turn quickly. The PS2 inspires considerably more confidence, and almost never "hops" be it in a slide or a launch. I found that the RE050APP's had a considerable tendency to hop around and grab on the AWD cars I've run them on, where the PS2's do not, instead they have a linear feedback right up to the point they slide or otherwise let go.
So, for a RWD car, especially one that sees a lot of rain, I'd go with the RE050APP's (maybe with a set of pilot cups on different wheels for the track). For an AWD car, the PS2's.
#23
Treadwear rating is only valid among the same manafacturer, each manafacturer has a different way of rating treadwear. In other words don't compare a treadware rating from a Pirelli to a Michelin. Absolutely correct about the weight though. The RE050's are a nice tire they just weight a ton..
Dave
#24
I remember reading the Bridgestones are about 2-3 lbs more per tire vs. the 19" PS2's; I have them on my 07 S and they have been a very good tire but when it comes time to change all 4 it will be to Pilots.
#26
All this talk of the RE050A PP seems irrelevant as they do not even make that tire in the 19" size that I need (either 295/30 19 or 305/30 19). 3 lbs per tire is quite a bit more, but my aftermarket wheels weigh around 5 lbs less per wheel than the stockers. That will offset the weight issue. Of course I could get the PS2 and save around 8 lbs per wheel/tire from my current setup (lobsters and RE050A N0)...decisions decisions.
#27
My 0.02$, get the stones ... if they don't live up to your specs, switch em out early; The money you save will make up the difference. At the rate I go through tires. in 6 months I would have gone through a set of Stones, PS2s and Pzeros.
#28
RE050A not only come in that size .. they are also Nspec tires (Porsche Approved).
My 0.02$, get the stones ... if they don't live up to your specs, switch em out early; The money you save will make up the difference. At the rate I go through tires. in 6 months I would have gone through a set of Stones, PS2s and Pzeros.
My 0.02$, get the stones ... if they don't live up to your specs, switch em out early; The money you save will make up the difference. At the rate I go through tires. in 6 months I would have gone through a set of Stones, PS2s and Pzeros.