Wax??
#1
Wax??
I am sure you all have your favorites- but us there a "WAX" than stands out beyond the rest for P-Cars?
I have been told ZYMOL- if that is true what has been your experience?
Also is there a product above all others for when it comes down to the full leather/supple interior??
Thank you in advance.
I have been told ZYMOL- if that is true what has been your experience?
Also is there a product above all others for when it comes down to the full leather/supple interior??
Thank you in advance.
Last edited by Skylar's Dad; 07-08-2008 at 10:37 PM.
#2
I think you can find as many opinions as there are brands of wax. What's more important is how you apply it.
Make sure the car is completely clean and dry, remove old wax if necessary, use clay to remove embedded surface dirt, apply evenly, buff out thoroughly with microfiber, etc.
I use Griot's Garage products on my Porsches, and I think the results are comparable to any other brand. Zymol is good stuff too.
Make sure the car is completely clean and dry, remove old wax if necessary, use clay to remove embedded surface dirt, apply evenly, buff out thoroughly with microfiber, etc.
I use Griot's Garage products on my Porsches, and I think the results are comparable to any other brand. Zymol is good stuff too.
#3
I've tried almost everything out there.
You've got to answer a few questions:
1.) are you after looks or durability?
2.) is it a daily driver or a show car?
3.) how often are you going to completely maintain your paint's finish?
The following are simply my opinions:
Zymol is a lot of hype. Looks good, but doesn't last. I've even used the $1,000 version, and don't think it performs (looks or last-wise) notably.
Regardless of price, you can't really do much better for a natural paste Carnauba than either Souveran or P21S 100% Formulation.
However, you could instead opt for a hi-tech synthetic polymer sealant. In that family, the best (IMHO) are Zaino and Menzerna.
All this makes the most difference on black and red, or other such dark cars. On a light-colored or silver car, you'd be hard pressed to tell a visual difference.
If you answer a few questions, I can help you. But keep in mind that you're going down a wormhole. In the detailing world (check out my cars on an eariler post), it's 80% technique and 20% product.
CATTMAN
You've got to answer a few questions:
1.) are you after looks or durability?
2.) is it a daily driver or a show car?
3.) how often are you going to completely maintain your paint's finish?
The following are simply my opinions:
Zymol is a lot of hype. Looks good, but doesn't last. I've even used the $1,000 version, and don't think it performs (looks or last-wise) notably.
Regardless of price, you can't really do much better for a natural paste Carnauba than either Souveran or P21S 100% Formulation.
However, you could instead opt for a hi-tech synthetic polymer sealant. In that family, the best (IMHO) are Zaino and Menzerna.
All this makes the most difference on black and red, or other such dark cars. On a light-colored or silver car, you'd be hard pressed to tell a visual difference.
If you answer a few questions, I can help you. But keep in mind that you're going down a wormhole. In the detailing world (check out my cars on an eariler post), it's 80% technique and 20% product.
CATTMAN
#4
I attended a local PCA Concourse event a couple of years ago and asked around. I was told that if you're paint is in good shape to try Meguiar's NXT Wax. I gave it a shot on my on my wife's Cayenne S first, and it turned out great. I was so pleased with the results that I put a coat on my C2S. If the paint needs any prep, I usually go with Klasse All in One (red bottle) followed by the Meguiar's NXT.
For the money, NXT is cheap and worth a try.
For the money, NXT is cheap and worth a try.
#6
+1 on the NXT.
Probably not the detailers choice but it can be put on with low effort (provided your paint is in good shape) and produces good results. Seems to hold up well but my car is not a DD so it is difficult to really know.
Probably not the detailers choice but it can be put on with low effort (provided your paint is in good shape) and produces good results. Seems to hold up well but my car is not a DD so it is difficult to really know.
#7
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#8
I use Menzerna FMJ for the last 6 months. But I recently put on a coat of RejeX. For the front of the car I use Starbrite with Teflon. Starbrite is a boating wax product but it works wonders in keeping bug and tar off the car. Better than anything else I have ever used.
#9
I've tried almost everything out there.
You've got to answer a few questions:
1.) are you after looks or durability?
2.) is it a daily driver or a show car?
3.) how often are you going to completely maintain your paint's finish?
The following are simply my opinions:
Zymol is a lot of hype. Looks good, but doesn't last. I've even used the $1,000 version, and don't think it performs (looks or last-wise) notably.
Regardless of price, you can't really do much better for a natural paste Carnauba than either Souveran or P21S 100% Formulation.
However, you could instead opt for a hi-tech synthetic polymer sealant. In that family, the best (IMHO) are Zaino and Menzerna.
All this makes the most difference on black and red, or other such dark cars. On a light-colored or silver car, you'd be hard pressed to tell a visual difference.
If you answer a few questions, I can help you. But keep in mind that you're going down a wormhole. In the detailing world (check out my cars on an eariler post), it's 80% technique and 20% product.
CATTMAN
You've got to answer a few questions:
1.) are you after looks or durability?
2.) is it a daily driver or a show car?
3.) how often are you going to completely maintain your paint's finish?
The following are simply my opinions:
Zymol is a lot of hype. Looks good, but doesn't last. I've even used the $1,000 version, and don't think it performs (looks or last-wise) notably.
Regardless of price, you can't really do much better for a natural paste Carnauba than either Souveran or P21S 100% Formulation.
However, you could instead opt for a hi-tech synthetic polymer sealant. In that family, the best (IMHO) are Zaino and Menzerna.
All this makes the most difference on black and red, or other such dark cars. On a light-colored or silver car, you'd be hard pressed to tell a visual difference.
If you answer a few questions, I can help you. But keep in mind that you're going down a wormhole. In the detailing world (check out my cars on an eariler post), it's 80% technique and 20% product.
CATTMAN
Its a daily driver and lets say- 70% looks and 30% durability-
I am really trying to make that Midnight Blue as rich as possible.
I have heard alot about Zaino as well- is that after a wax or in lieu of wax?
Thanks-
SD
#11
I attended a local PCA Concourse event a couple of years ago and asked around. I was told that if you're paint is in good shape to try Meguiar's NXT Wax. I gave it a shot on my on my wife's Cayenne S first, and it turned out great. I was so pleased with the results that I put a coat on my C2S. If the paint needs any prep, I usually go with Klasse All in One (red bottle) followed by the Meguiar's NXT.
For the money, NXT is cheap and worth a try.
For the money, NXT is cheap and worth a try.
Thanks-
SD
#12
So I take it you use it in lieu of wax not after the wax- correct?
Thanks-
SD
#14
Let me try to explain:
-After performing all the paint correction needed (wash, clay, wash, multi-stage polish as necessary), you need to apply something to protect the paint. You can use a wax (typically carnauba), or a synthetic polymer sealant. Waxes and sealants are sometimes referred to in the detailing world as "toppers", as they are the final step in the paint detail process- they "top" your paint.
Waxes do not last as long as sealants, but waxes have in the past looked better than sealants (sealants used to look plasticky whereas carnauba waxes tended to look very deep). Today that's not the case as there are sealants that look as good if not better than waxes. But you must use one or the other- a wax or a sealant, to "top" your paint.
My favorite carnauba waxes include Souveran and P21S (100% carnauba formula).
My favorite synthetic polymer sealants include: Zaino and Menzerna FMJ.
Both Zaino and Menzerna make a full line of paint detailing products, such as polishes, etc.
Someone asked about leather. The Zaino leather cleaner, and Zaino leather conditioner is the best I've found for easy and regular use. Gives that "baseball glove" smell. Totally addictive, and so easy to use. While I am on the subject of Zaino, their tire dressing is terrific, too, as it just makes the tires black, not blingy shiney. And it lasts a long time in all conditions. And also Zaino's "quick detail" spray is awesome, as is their car wash shampoo. Can you tell I like Zaino?
Now, to further confuse you, you can prep your paint (do all the cleaning, polishing, etc.) and then seal it with Zaino or Menzerna FMJ, let that cure for 24 hours, and then apply a coat of a carnauba. Totally not necessary, but some like that look. You cannot, however, put a sealant on top of a carnauba. Got that?
See, I told you it's a wormhole. If you really want to learn about all of this, check out www.autopia.org. You'll see me over there.
CATTMAN
-After performing all the paint correction needed (wash, clay, wash, multi-stage polish as necessary), you need to apply something to protect the paint. You can use a wax (typically carnauba), or a synthetic polymer sealant. Waxes and sealants are sometimes referred to in the detailing world as "toppers", as they are the final step in the paint detail process- they "top" your paint.
Waxes do not last as long as sealants, but waxes have in the past looked better than sealants (sealants used to look plasticky whereas carnauba waxes tended to look very deep). Today that's not the case as there are sealants that look as good if not better than waxes. But you must use one or the other- a wax or a sealant, to "top" your paint.
My favorite carnauba waxes include Souveran and P21S (100% carnauba formula).
My favorite synthetic polymer sealants include: Zaino and Menzerna FMJ.
Both Zaino and Menzerna make a full line of paint detailing products, such as polishes, etc.
Someone asked about leather. The Zaino leather cleaner, and Zaino leather conditioner is the best I've found for easy and regular use. Gives that "baseball glove" smell. Totally addictive, and so easy to use. While I am on the subject of Zaino, their tire dressing is terrific, too, as it just makes the tires black, not blingy shiney. And it lasts a long time in all conditions. And also Zaino's "quick detail" spray is awesome, as is their car wash shampoo. Can you tell I like Zaino?
Now, to further confuse you, you can prep your paint (do all the cleaning, polishing, etc.) and then seal it with Zaino or Menzerna FMJ, let that cure for 24 hours, and then apply a coat of a carnauba. Totally not necessary, but some like that look. You cannot, however, put a sealant on top of a carnauba. Got that?
See, I told you it's a wormhole. If you really want to learn about all of this, check out www.autopia.org. You'll see me over there.
CATTMAN
Last edited by Cattman; 07-08-2008 at 01:31 AM.
#15
But don't forget that if you are going to be using this, make sure you wash you car with dawn dish washing soap first, and make sure you wash it really well this will remove any old wax and whatnot that has been on your car, after that do a zaino wash and let the zaino'in begin