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Old 10-10-2008 | 08:28 PM
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Question Oil Pan Sealant Compound

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Went to change my oil & filter this morning and discovered the oil drain plug 8 mm hex plug was rounded and the 8 mm hex tool would just spin around. Evidently my Porsche dealer service shop over torque the drain plug and ruined it when they were searching for an oil leak early this year. I certainly don't plan to let them touch my car again.

So now I need to remove the pan (13 M6 X 20 torx screws) and remove the drain plug w/ either an easy out or drill it so it falls apart. I can do this while it's on the car but I think it's better dealing w/ the drain plug while the pan is removed. I don't want to get any aluminum chips from the drain plug drilling inside the motor. It's should be a pretty simple task.

No gasket is required but a sealant compound is specified (Porsche #000 043 204 73). I suspect it's just a prema-seal type of sealant (aluminum to aluminum high temperature) but I want to be sure. Does anybody know the details on this Porsche sealant compound or a suggestion on which type I should use?

Thanks for any suggestions or help.
 
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don't remove the pan, try to hammer in a torx or 12 point bit if you have them (it will not hurt the oil pan), I have done this numerous times (daily pretty much). If you deceide to remove the cover, use a product called The Right Stuff by Permatex (loctite product) which is the same as the factory sealant. Hope this helps
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don't remove the pan, try to hammer in a torx or 12 point bit if you have them (it will not hurt the oil pan), I have done this numerous times (daily pretty much). If you deceide to remove the cover, use a product called The Right Stuff by Permatex (loctite product) which is the same as the factory sealant. Hope this helps
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Thanks for the info.

I try a bit more to remove the plug while it's in the before I remove the entire pan. It's pretty much butchered up now so it might be even tougher.
 
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Ouch!

I don't envy your dilemma!
 
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Originally Posted by AP 997S
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No gasket is required but a sealant compound is specified (Porsche #000 043 204 73). I suspect it's just a prema-seal type of sealant (aluminum to aluminum high temperature) but I want to be sure. Does anybody know the details on this Porsche sealant compound or a suggestion on which type I should use?

Thanks for any suggestions or help.
I believe the part number is 000 043 203 73 its Dreibond type 1209 silicone good for up to 250C/482F its a 30ml tube, clear silicone, not the black 5900 stuff.

 

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I dont like to have to do things twice.... but if you want to try, permatex clear silicone says its good for up to 450F and resists oil. You could also try hammering a TORX style socket into the rounded out hole and see if that gives you enough grip to turn the plug out.
 

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Dont remove the pan. If you can't get it out with an oversized allen wrench, just drill and remove.
 
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Problem solved . . . Oil drained and filter changed.

My neighbor had a #8 Easy Out that I just hammered into the the rounded out 8 mm hex hole and carefully backed out the drain plug. Pretty simple and I guess a common fix w/ aluminum drain plugs.

Filled up w/ nine (9) quarts of 0-40 Mobil One. Gauge show all bars so I guess it's full. I'll watch it awhile to make sure.

Thanks for all for your suggestions and help.

 
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Don't overtighten this time and then find a brass plug with magnet for next oil change.
 
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Don't overtighten this time and then find a brass plug with magnet for next oil change.
I torqued the new aluminum drain plug to the Porsche spec . . . . 37 ft lbs.

Filter cannister also torque to Porsche Spec . . . . 15 ft lbs.
 
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See if you can find a brass plug. It's a bit sturdier.
 
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