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Old 11-02-2008 | 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by setiono
You should come to Australia, and check out the base 997 price, it's more than AUD 200k! convert that to USD and it's Porsche GT2 price range. So when you can get a base 997 for USD 75k (which can only get you a BMW 335 here), I reckon it's a bargain! You guys are so lucky to be in the US.
Truer words were never spoken!

Incidentally, my buddy runs an office for my company in Melbourne. We use that office because in USD their total cost per-head is roughly 70% what ours is in California. So aside from the steeper markup, you're making less money to do the same job. I hope your rents are cheaper!
 
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Old 11-02-2008 | 06:18 PM
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That is why I bought one that was next to new and saved over $25k off a new one. Yes you don't get to pick every little option yourself, but for the savings, you can often find one that had everything you need and save a bundle in the process.

Let someone else take the biggest hit in depreciation - after that Porsches hold their value very well comparatively.

At least if price is your concern, there is no better value.

I got a 2007 with 8k miles on it and a longer warranty than factory (up to 100k ) because it was CPO

Unless you have to get the latest and greatest - then don't complain about the price of being on the leading edge. There are many of us here who will be glad to help you get out of that almost new car to get back into a new one!
Exactly. A new Carrera is over priced. I will be purchasing a used one with low miles. Carreras are great cars, but far from a bargain. They are not exclusive and you see a ton of them on the road. A well equipped new Carrera S is around 98k. At close to 100k, that is far from a bargain. Sure it is a good car, but it is still a little over priced for what you get. For 85k you can get a brand new GTR right now. The GTR is more exclusive and out performs a Carrera. I would still purchase a Carrera over a GTR because I prefer how they look and feel, but would admit I am paying for an overpriced car if I was buying it new.

Just look at the options list on a Carrera. You have to pay 3k extra just for some adaptive sport seats which come stock in a lot of sports cars now and days. You have to pay extra for a limited slip diff. That should def be a standard feature on any sports car. You have to pay extra for full leather. Leather on the dash? Common, that should be a standard feature for a 90k car. Gotta pay extra for dynamic cornering lights, which come standard on many cars now. Adjustable dampening (PASM), again standard on most sports cars now. High end Bose sound system that doesn't even sound that great, on many cars for free.

Here are the list of features that should be standard on a Carrera that would not make it over priced IMO.

Seat options - Power or Adaptive
Dynamic Cornering lights
Full leather interior(leather dash)
Limited Slip Differential
PASM
High end Bose Sound system

These options roughly add up to 9 grand. Make these options standard and a Carrera S would cost around 90k loaded with navi. Which is still an expensive car, but no over priced because you would be getting more for your money. Many of you guys say skip on options, but you shouldn't have to. Just my opinion. You can fool yourselves into thinking 100k for a Carrera S is a bargain, but it is not.
 
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Old 11-02-2008 | 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by ZEMDOGG
Why would you ever post something like this, seriously. I bet you think a Ferrari is worth it which would be totally contradicting.

Fact is a lot of the cars you mentioned wouldnt even have any brakes left after 2 laps around a track. Gimme a break no comparison. Drive down to FL and I'll let you drive one.

The 911 is WAY better. This is not opinion this is FACT.


Hell my 99' with 110K miles makes a better track car than the cars you mentioned. A WAY BETTER track car!
Well said Andreas!
 
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Old 11-02-2008 | 07:05 PM
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I think you mean Patek Philippe

Originally Posted by movingup
Just like anything else in life, you get less frills with more prestige. Philip patek probably does much less than your average casio but hey it 's philip patek.
I can tell you why I chose the 911 over those cars, because its the car I dreamed of as a little boy. I also used to dream of Patek Philippes but now I am a AP addict.
 
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Old 11-02-2008 | 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by mark911997sC
How can you compare a 997 with a G37? Why get a Bentley when the new Hyundai's are almost as luxurious? I'm sure everybody knows the difference between the two. I'm sure somebody can answer that.
hahaaha you are absolutely right!! how can someone even ask this question?? there is no comparison what so ever.
 
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Old 11-03-2008 | 07:29 AM
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audemars piguets are sick I'm in the market for one to add to the collection. What to you think of the royal oaks? Sorry, ive gone off topic. The tourbillon is amazing. I want one under 45k.
 

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Old 11-03-2008 | 07:53 AM
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Well all I can say is

most of my collection is AP based. I love the RO but I'm a bigger fan of the ROO. Its pretty hard to find a tourbillon for under 45k. Take a look at JLC as their tourbillons are a bargain.

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Old 11-03-2008 | 08:05 AM
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Absolutely!

Originally Posted by tourbillon001
Take a look at JLC as their tourbillons are a bargain.
You might want to take a look at the limited edition JLC 1833 Grande Tourbillon, rose gold + dark chocolate brown dial - looks amazing.

If you like the look of the RO and ROO, but want a more sophisticated version, take a look at Patek Philippe's Aquanaut and Nautilus. All of them were designed by Gerald Genta who seems to have a nautical fixation.
 
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Old 11-03-2008 | 08:20 AM
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JLC tourbillon is nice

I have a couple of them

and a PP thrown in for good measure

 
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Nice collection! See you over on Timezone.
 
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Yo my man, if you went out and test drove one, you would have not asked your question.
 
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props on the watches!
 
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Old 11-03-2008 | 06:04 PM
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Thanks, not if i just sold them all I could get a new GT2

 
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Old 11-04-2008 | 10:59 AM
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PORSCHE. Their is no substitute. If you have to ask, you don't deserve one and if you ask why, you can afford one. It's a Porsche, case closed. You obviously have not been with the Ladies and Porsche owners are egomaniacs. Come on man get with the program.
 
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Old 11-04-2008 | 11:46 AM
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Nissan G37 /997S

Ask the hot blonde down the hall if she knows the difference between a G37 and a 997....The Answer?

Maybe not the 0-60 times- but she definitely knows the difference....
 


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