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Old 12-12-2008 | 01:39 PM
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Where to buy street brke pads for 997S?

I have Pagids on my 997S and even after one hard track day, the brakes squeak like a bus... I want to buy some street pads, at least for the front, I don't care if they are OEM or Hawk street pads or whatever, just something I can swap out for when I drive the car on the street so I don't wake up the city with my brake squeak...

I have looked around but can't seem to find the correct pads or when I thought I did, they asked what size, and that should be standard, it's a 997 S with steel brakes, one size fits all right?

Where is the best, least expensive place to get some pads?
 
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Is $180 a set a good price? Do I need to buy sensors? Do I need shims? I have never done my own brake pads but it looks really easy....
 
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+1 Suncoast in Sarasota. Use the stock pads for the street and the Pagid's for the track.
 
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Ditto suncoast, unlike the 996, the 997 is a bit of a pain the first time, esp the rears and sensor removal. Took me an hr and a half last time.
 
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Originally Posted by TT Surgeon
Ditto suncoast, unlike the 996, the 997 is a bit of a pain the first time, esp the rears and sensor removal. Took me an hr and a half last time.
Well i'm going to do the fronts first becuase I think those are the squeaky ones??? They look really easy from what I saw in a video demo of someone doing it, but it always looks easy until you have to do it, right...

Wouldn't I be better to get Hawk street pads for a much less price?
 
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Allegedly the hawks dust really bad and is very hard to clean up.

Which pagids are you running? I just had some yellows installed today. They don't squeak at all.
 
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For the street I like the stock pads.

You really don't need the sensors in the pads if you are swapping pads since you will see what is going on. With the Pagid's there is no sensor so the sensors should be tie wrapped in place, just leave them that way.

You should not need shims but you may need some of the pad paste (forgot the proper name) to make sure there is no squeel with the street pads. The problem with the paste is that it is a pain if you swap pads so I don't use it.

Good luck.
 
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Allegedly the hawks dust really bad and is very hard to clean up.

Which pagids are you running? I just had some yellows installed today. They don't squeak at all.
they will!!!!
 
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I swapped pads out of my 06 and 07 C2S all the time. DO NOT use the stock anti squeal plates with the Pagid yellow pads...to tight of a fit as the Pagid pads are super thick.

Once you get the stock pads out and the anti-squeal plates off the pads swapping out pads is super quick and easy. I knife r skinny screw driver will help separate the sticky part of the anti-squeal plate and stock pads. I used goof off to remove the sticky stuff on the anti squeal plates so they would not re-stick to the stock pads. I never had the stock pads make any noise from not sticking the anti-squeal plates back on the stock pads. I never used any paste or anything.

I could swap pads faster than taking off the tire!
 
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I swapped pads out of my 06 and 07 C2S all the time. DO NOT use the stock anti squeal plates with the Pagid yellow pads...to tight of a fit as the Pagid pads are super thick.
I assumed my tech knew that. He got three corners done before he mentioned something about the squeal plates. Which I remember reading on a Pagid distributors's site that they're not to be used. After I broke out the laptop and showed him, he had to go back and do them all over again.

So far the brakes feel kind of weird. Although I haven't had a chance to properly "bed them in" yet. Too much traffic yesterday. I'm going down to St. Armands today for the PIP event so there should be plenty of wide open highway to heat cycle the pads.

Right now the pedal drops an inch before the brakes start to grab. Weird. The brakes were fully flushed and bled, stainless lines installed, and the new pads. Maybe there is some air in the system. Doug said that they may feel that way for a bit till the system readjusts and the pads are fully bedded in.
 
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Originally Posted by deputydog95
Allegedly the hawks dust really bad and is very hard to clean up.

Which pagids are you running? I just had some yellows installed today. They don't squeak at all.
I have BLACK... THey didn't squeak at first either, but one time at a fast track and it was all over... Maybe if they never went to the track they would never squeak, too late for me though...
 
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Originally Posted by deputydog95
I assumed my tech knew that. He got three corners done before he mentioned something about the squeal plates. Which I remember reading on a Pagid distributors's site that they're not to be used. After I broke out the laptop and showed him, he had to go back and do them all over again.

So far the brakes feel kind of weird. Although I haven't had a chance to properly "bed them in" yet. Too much traffic yesterday. I'm going down to St. Armands today for the PIP event so there should be plenty of wide open highway to heat cycle the pads.

Right now the pedal drops an inch before the brakes start to grab. Weird. The brakes were fully flushed and bled, stainless lines installed, and the new pads. Maybe there is some air in the system. Doug said that they may feel that way for a bit till the system readjusts and the pads are fully bedded in.
These are NOT street pads and they will not stop nearly as well as stock pads because you will never get them as hot as they need to be on the street...never ever...not even on the highway. Stock pads will grab much better on the street but will not last as long on the track.

Pagid pads absolutly have to be beded in or you will glaze them over. I spoke directly to Pagid about all this type of stuff a year ago then I learned from experiance.
 
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These are NOT street pads and they will not stop nearly as well as stock pads because you will never get them as hot as they need to be on the street...never ever...not even on the highway. Stock pads will grab much better on the street but will not last as long on the track.

Pagid pads absolutly have to be beded in or you will glaze them over. I spoke directly to Pagid about all this type of stuff a year ago then I learned from experiance.
My pedal is still sinking. I can only assume there is air in the lines. If I pump the pedal I can get it back up. Not to mention when I hit the brakes hard, it gets squirelly. I'm guessing wherever the air is is causing the brakes to apply pressure unevenly.

I followed the shop instructions for bedding them in. Do three back to back medium pressure stops, then let them cool. Do several more back to back higher speed higher pressure stops, then let them cool. I've done that numerous times now and they still don't feel right. The brakes are very spongy till you depress the pedal around 2 or 3 inches.

I will say that when they bite, they bite hard. I couldn't make my tires howl with the stock pads. With the pagid yellows (RS29) the tires sound like they're locking up so they do offer quite a bit more "grab".
 
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My pedal is still sinking. I can only assume there is air in the lines. If I pump the pedal I can get it back up. Not to mention when I hit the brakes hard, it gets squirelly. I'm guessing wherever the air is is causing the brakes to apply pressure unevenly.

I followed the shop instructions for bedding them in. Do three back to back medium pressure stops, then let them cool. Do several more back to back higher speed higher pressure stops, then let them cool. I've done that numerous times now and they still don't feel right. The brakes are very spongy till you depress the pedal around 2 or 3 inches.

I will say that when they bite, they bite hard. I couldn't make my tires howl with the stock pads. With the pagid yellows (RS29) the tires sound like they're locking up so they do offer quite a bit more "grab".
Have your brakes flushed. The pedal feel like that is air in the lines not the pads. Take it by Vortex and have them look at it.
 


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