Bilstein PSS9 Recommendations
#34
Has anyone heard about the Sachs Performance Coilovers? It looks like they are available for the 987 models currently and they are going to be available for the the 997's anytime now. Might be another quality option instead of the Bilstein's??
www.sachssport.com
www.sachssport.com
#35
Has anyone heard about the Sachs Performance Coilovers? It looks like they are available for the 987 models currently and they are going to be available for the the 997's anytime now. Might be another quality option instead of the Bilstein's??
www.sachssport.com
www.sachssport.com
#36
p0rsch3 - I will check it out. You think the KW are better than the Bilsteins? Why?
I am drawn to the Sachs because the cars come with the Sachs suspension from the factory. I would expect, from what I have seen, that they have the know-how to provide a quality product. The adjustability is 20 clicks from full soft to full hard so street comfort and track performance will be optimal.
I would like to hear any feedback from anyone who may have experienced them. I have read quite a bit on the bilstein and kw too.
I am drawn to the Sachs because the cars come with the Sachs suspension from the factory. I would expect, from what I have seen, that they have the know-how to provide a quality product. The adjustability is 20 clicks from full soft to full hard so street comfort and track performance will be optimal.
I would like to hear any feedback from anyone who may have experienced them. I have read quite a bit on the bilstein and kw too.
#37
Just my opinion based of comparing both, and driving on both. It used to be where I preferred the PSS becuase of the cost factor- less features but good price. The KW's were considerably more $ than PSS.
However, the cost of PSS has gone up so at a same-same price point the KW's are a no-brainer. If you have truly read up on both PSS and KWv3's, the differences between the two are quite remarkable. Again, I'm not knocking PSS, but at the same price point the KWs are superior in several aspects: All stainless construction, progressive rate springs, separately adjustable low speed bump and rebound control, outboard gas reservior, fixed-rate high speed bump soaks up street potholes and sharp bumps (e.g very good street ride even with stiff settings), one or two clicks actually makes a noticeable difference, warranty is not voided by track use. You can only surpass the KWv3's performance by stepping up into the Moton category of COs.
Overall IMHO, very good bang for the buck- How many CO's are there that cost $2500, can be professionally raced on and consistently perform well, and then still give you an excellent street ride? Plus they are no harder to install / set up than PSS.
Sachs has a long history of making shocks, so I am indeed interested in their new CO product. I'll have to wait and read some reviews though. It is always good to see potential good new options.
However, the cost of PSS has gone up so at a same-same price point the KW's are a no-brainer. If you have truly read up on both PSS and KWv3's, the differences between the two are quite remarkable. Again, I'm not knocking PSS, but at the same price point the KWs are superior in several aspects: All stainless construction, progressive rate springs, separately adjustable low speed bump and rebound control, outboard gas reservior, fixed-rate high speed bump soaks up street potholes and sharp bumps (e.g very good street ride even with stiff settings), one or two clicks actually makes a noticeable difference, warranty is not voided by track use. You can only surpass the KWv3's performance by stepping up into the Moton category of COs.
Overall IMHO, very good bang for the buck- How many CO's are there that cost $2500, can be professionally raced on and consistently perform well, and then still give you an excellent street ride? Plus they are no harder to install / set up than PSS.
Sachs has a long history of making shocks, so I am indeed interested in their new CO product. I'll have to wait and read some reviews though. It is always good to see potential good new options.
p0rsch3 - I will check it out. You think the KW are better than the Bilsteins? Why?
I am drawn to the Sachs because the cars come with the Sachs suspension from the factory. I would expect, from what I have seen, that they have the know-how to provide a quality product. The adjustability is 20 clicks from full soft to full hard so street comfort and track performance will be optimal.
I would like to hear any feedback from anyone who may have experienced them. I have read quite a bit on the bilstein and kw too.
I am drawn to the Sachs because the cars come with the Sachs suspension from the factory. I would expect, from what I have seen, that they have the know-how to provide a quality product. The adjustability is 20 clicks from full soft to full hard so street comfort and track performance will be optimal.
I would like to hear any feedback from anyone who may have experienced them. I have read quite a bit on the bilstein and kw too.
#38
Thank you for your info. I appreciate it! A lot of people are talking about the KW C.O. and seem to be happy with the performance and value. There are more options becoming available in the "streetable" coilovers. Getting peoples input helps in finding the pros and cons of each. I really appreciate your POV and feedback based on your experiences. The KW seems popular. I am hoping someone has experience with the Sachs c.o. that can provide some feedback too!
Just my opinion based of comparing both, and driving on both. It used to be where I preferred the PSS becuase of the cost factor- less features but good price. The KW's were considerably more $ than PSS.
However, the cost of PSS has gone up so at a same-same price point the KW's are a no-brainer. If you have truly read up on both PSS and KWv3's, the differences between the two are quite remarkable. Again, I'm not knocking PSS, but at the same price point the KWs are superior in several aspects: All stainless construction, progressive rate springs, separately adjustable low speed bump and rebound control, outboard gas reservior, fixed-rate high speed bump soaks up street potholes and sharp bumps (e.g very good street ride even with stiff settings), one or two clicks actually makes a noticeable difference, warranty is not voided by track use. You can only surpass the KWv3's performance by stepping up into the Moton category of COs.
Overall IMHO, very good bang for the buck- How many CO's are there that cost $2500, can be professionally raced on and consistently perform well, and then still give you an excellent street ride? Plus they are no harder to install / set up than PSS.
Sachs has a long history of making shocks, so I am indeed interested in their new CO product. I'll have to wait and read some reviews though. It is always good to see potential good new options.
However, the cost of PSS has gone up so at a same-same price point the KW's are a no-brainer. If you have truly read up on both PSS and KWv3's, the differences between the two are quite remarkable. Again, I'm not knocking PSS, but at the same price point the KWs are superior in several aspects: All stainless construction, progressive rate springs, separately adjustable low speed bump and rebound control, outboard gas reservior, fixed-rate high speed bump soaks up street potholes and sharp bumps (e.g very good street ride even with stiff settings), one or two clicks actually makes a noticeable difference, warranty is not voided by track use. You can only surpass the KWv3's performance by stepping up into the Moton category of COs.
Overall IMHO, very good bang for the buck- How many CO's are there that cost $2500, can be professionally raced on and consistently perform well, and then still give you an excellent street ride? Plus they are no harder to install / set up than PSS.
Sachs has a long history of making shocks, so I am indeed interested in their new CO product. I'll have to wait and read some reviews though. It is always good to see potential good new options.
#39
The reality of corner balancing is that each corner will have a different weight, not an equal weight. They also factor in driver weight and fuel, so they may ask for that.
Corner balancing is great, and is something you need height adjustable suspension to achieve, but in the end, unless you're racing it's likely not going to be that noticeable and probably not worth the time it will take the shop in dollars.
#40
KW vs. Blistein
Im in a similar boat... after considering adjustability and whatnot, my next concern is height adjustment. I was informed that going with KW over Bilstein, the front must be dropped 1.2" automatically from the get go(Not taking into consideration corner balancing). Problem being Ive got 255/35/19s in front and I dont think Ive got room for a drop like that, nor do I want my car to be slammed.
#41
Today my spacers installed, and it looks great! What is very funny, and i've seen it before but now it's really obvious, is that my left wheel is more 'inside' than the right wheel. I noticed that before, and thought that the allignment was off. They re-checked the allignment, and it was ok... Now that the 7mm spacers are installed i can really tell that the left wheel has more of a gap above the wheel. Is this a construction error? or does it has to be an allignment issue...?
#42
Today my spacers installed, and it looks great! What is very funny, and i've seen it before but now it's really obvious, is that my left wheel is more 'inside' than the right wheel. I noticed that before, and thought that the allignment was off. They re-checked the allignment, and it was ok... Now that the 7mm spacers are installed i can really tell that the left wheel has more of a gap above the wheel. Is this a construction error? or does it has to be an allignment issue...?
#43
Just saw that you are from the Netherlands You have a lot of expertise with suspension close to you.... You shouldn't have any problem at all....
I would advice you to check with your dealer about the PSS10 with Nürburgring spec since this is the latest spec. Improvement both on track and european roads.
I would advice you to check with your dealer about the PSS10 with Nürburgring spec since this is the latest spec. Improvement both on track and european roads.
As expected PSS10 is the enhanced version of PSS9 (to avoid confusion, both are non-Damptronic) and thus I am reluctanted to pick the about-to-be-outdated PSS9.
I used the Product Finder in the Bilstein official website but couldn't find any PSS10 applicable to 997 C2/C2S without PASM, only PSS9. Mailed to Bilstein Germany and got confirmed that PSS10 is only available to C4/C4S/Turbo/GTs. C2/C2S are the only left-alone!!!
I really have no idea how difficult Bilstein could get to apply PSS10 to C2/C2S. But after months of searching and checking, I have to accept this is the fact as is!
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