I've spent months following all the great radar/laser threads/posts/links. Thanks to all. NOW, I've been hit twice in the past three weeks (Florida)with instant on; what do you know about defense for these?

 

I use the Escort detector and Jammer:
It has worked wonders.

I found this online

Radar Jammers are where the technology is going! Radar detectors by themselves are basically worthless with the "instant on" radar the Police are using now. Instant-on is where the Police sit and wait till you get right on top of them and they turn the gun on and wham, all your detector does is tell you to pull over. The jammers are what you need because they protect, not just warn like a detector does. We still recommend using a detector because you still want to know where they are at. This is why our combination units are so popular because it has both the jammer and the detector in one.


CAUTION: All radar jammers have a term called "punch-through". This punch-through distance is proportionate to the size of the vehicle. For a midsize car, the punch-through is under 100 feet. For larger vehicles ie. tractor trailers, busses, etc., the punch-through is approximately 200-300 feet. Your vehicle is vulnerable in this range. The driver should adjust his speed accordingly.

 

I'm likely to do a Valentine1 radar detector and a Laser Interceptor or Lasr Park Pro Laser Jammer.

You're best off to to find out what your local enforcement uses and then you find what equipment is best suited to combat it. Also you should find out about the legalities of such products for your area.

 

even with a Valentine One you won't get enough warning with instant on and if you are the first guy in line you won't get any warning...if there are cars in front of you getting popped the Valentine One will chirp but unless you are paying attention you could mis-interpret it as a false signal...take a look at Deputy Dogs detector group buy thread

https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...group-buy.html

 

Radar Jammers are where the technology is going!

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The only radar jammer that jammed all bands of radar was the Scorpion Ultimate Ka radar jammer and it was $1500 and the FCC shut down the manufacturer years ago. There is radar and there is laser and they are completely different. If a cop is using instant-on radar and doesn't shoot any cars for a long period of time and then happens to pull the trigger when you are hauling ***, there is no defense and you will receive a ticket. The only thing that can save you from instant-on radar is if the cop shoots people way in front of you and you pick up distant blips of radar with your radar detector. Laser is always instant-on because a cop is only shooting one vehicle at a time. The great thing about laser is that a quality laser diode laser jammer like the Laser Interceptor can jam almost every laser gun all the way to the gun and jamming laser is only illegal in like nine states so far.

 

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The only radar jammer that jammed all bands of radar was the Scorpion Ultimate Ka radar jammer and it was $1500 and the FCC shut down the manufacturer years ago. There is radar and there is laser and they are completely different. If a cop is using instant-on radar and doesn't shoot any cars for a long period of time and then happens to pull the trigger when you are hauling ***, there is no defense and you will receive a ticket. The only thing that can save you from instant-on radar is if the cop shoots people way in front of you and you pick up distant.........
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Thanks: this is what my "research" says; I was just hoping I was wrong.

 

Instant On is a miserable b*tch.

I purchased the Escort 9500ci for my C63, and got nailed with a ticket going 80 in a 65 driving home after install.

I had no idea what Instant On was, until I did the research after getting my ticket. As others have explained, it's an advanced radar gun that emits no signal until the LEO pulls a trigger and snaps your speed within a second or 2. So all radar detectors are useless against Instant On if you are the lead car.

If you have Instant On in your area (which you do), you absolutely must follow a group of cars at least 100 yard ahead of you. If the LEO shoots any of those lead cars, a good detector should pick up the scatter. However, your radar detector will probably only give you a blip, so you need to be attentive to every blip which can be annoying.

Therefore, if you get the Escort 9500ix, you benefit from being able to set a mode where the radar frequency is displayed. Over time, you'll learn which frequencies are common, and you can respond accordingly. Also, this device has a GPS function and you can mark locations of known speedtraps, as well as lock out false signals.

The major benefits of the 9500ci are that is has laser jamming (which saved me driving through Maryland) and you can do a stealth install. The stealth install is worth the money alone, because if you do get pulled over, there is a chance (not a big one) that you can talk yourself out of the ticket. There is no chance of talking yourself out of a ticket if the LEO sees that you had a radar detector.

 

pictures please

 

Are you sure about that???

 

I didn't see anyone mention Trapster yet. This is a pda app (mine is on my iphone) that delivers user based real time data on police locations. You see a speed trap you tap the screen twice and you've just marked it for everyone that comes through after you. Obviously if you're the first guy the cop puts the gun on your hosed but I think this is the future. Laser jamming is great until it's illegal which is only a matter of time, but Trapster is really a first amendment based concept which would be much harder to stop. It just needs a bigger user base so everyone with an ipod that doesn't have it go install it. It also tells you where the redlight cameras are and other useful information. The first time someone else saves your *** by marking the trap ahead of you you'll be hooked.

 

Nice idea, helpful, and legal. Going to take an awful lot of people using it to provide even a minimal level of security, however. Plus, the last guy who shot me was beside his parked motorcycle; just like fishing, does not take much to change location when they aren't biting.

 

Yes, I'm sure.

 

Here are some pics of my 9500ci installed...

 

The problem is that the ZR4 laser jammer that comes with the $1600 Escort 9500ci is a POS compared to a good laser diode jammer like the Laser Interceptor.

http://guysoflidar.com/july-2008/laser-jammer-test.html


Second of all, you are from Pennsylvania and it is illegal for a cop to use lidar to issue a speeding ticket.

http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/23/2325.asp

Pennsylvania: Cops Busted for Illegally Issuing 650 Speeding Tickets
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania police admit they violated the law in issuing 650 lidar-based speeding tickets.

A pair of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania motorcycle police are under fire for breaking state law to issue 650 speeding tickets between October 1, 2007 and April 10, 2008. The officers hid on Route 65 near the West End Bridge and used lidar, a prohibited laser-based speed estimation device. Pittsburgh Police Chief Nate Harper admitted that the actions of his officers, who he declined to identify, violated the law.

"The officers were questioned on how many citations they have written and basically that's when it hit our screen that officers were illegally utilizing equipment," Harper said at a press conference yesterday. "It wasn't authorized.... We apologize to all the public for the inconvenience, and lidar will no longer be utilized."

KDKA-TV uncovered the fraud after being contacted by Jeff Grasha, a motorist who had received an illegal citation. Grasha said it was obvious the system was being used to raise money, not increase safety.

That was the reasoning of the state legislature forty years ago when it prohibited municipalities from using radar as a means of generating revenue (75 Pa.C.S. Section 3368). Although state police are allowed to use radar, no law enforcement agency in Pennsylvania has authorization to issue a citation with lidar. Repeated attempts to repeal the ban have failed despite pressure from insurance industry groups like AAA that support local radar and lidar use because it would lead to an increase in surcharges on automobile insurance policies.

In this case, the Pittsburgh officers were supposed to say that were "testing" lidar "along with" approved speed estimation devices. These include VASCAR -- a sophisticated version of a stop watch -- ESP, Accutrak and Enradd.

"It was a miscommunication between basically a supervisor and the officers," Chief Harper said. "Out of the 24 officers, two officers misunderstood that this was only to be a test."

Refunds will be issued and insurance companies may, on request, drop license points assessed as a result of the tickets.

Source: Speeding Tickets Tossed Because Of Illegal Radar Gun (KDKA-TV (PA), 4/15/2008)

 

What are you, on a short-sell of Escort stock?

Yes, there are better laser jammers, but I would not rate the ZR4's as a POS compared to them. They saved me in Maryland quite nicely.

Thank you for all of your infinite wisdom that PA does not allow laser guns--did you consider that I (or other PA residents) might actually travel outside of the state?