Installed Cargraphic "Medium" Loudness Exhaust Today
#1
Installed Cargraphic "Medium" Loudness Exhaust Today
...and I couldn't be happier!
Man! What a sound! I've spent the better part of the past two months going through exhausts (OEM, the Fabspeed, then PSE and now Cargraphic), and am happy to say I've found a keeper.
Bryan and the guys at RSS/Stugart Performance were top notch and took the time to demo the exhaust for me this morning and I was sold! If any of you are in the SoCal area, you really should take the time to go over to the shop and take a look around. They've got an AMAZING facility.
I'll try to shoot some video of the exhaust on cold start, etc but, to me, the sound clips never really bring out the true sound of the exhaust.
To me, the tone of the Cargraphic is almost identical but just a bit louder (in a very, very, very good way) to the PSE with the valves set to open full-time.
Not too loud to scare your neighbors but loud enough to be enjoyable at all RPMs, windows open/closed, radio on/off. Most important of all, there is no drone/resonance! This was a big concern of mine, having a tiptronic, but it's a non-issue here.
Build quality is top notch and the mufflers can with two different ends for the exhaust tips (one for the non-S variant, and one for the S variant) so that you could run your OEM tips or any number of tips out there.
Cargraphic also makes a "loud" version of this exhaust which, I'm sure sounds great too, but these are perfect for me (AND passed the "wife test"!)
I'm frankly surprised more people are not running these on their cars. Definitely a bit more pricey than say Fabspeeds but nothing outrageous (retail is around $2k).
If anyone in the OC area wants to hear the exhaust, I will be happy to audition them for you. PM/post here if you have any questions.
-Eddie
Man! What a sound! I've spent the better part of the past two months going through exhausts (OEM, the Fabspeed, then PSE and now Cargraphic), and am happy to say I've found a keeper.
Bryan and the guys at RSS/Stugart Performance were top notch and took the time to demo the exhaust for me this morning and I was sold! If any of you are in the SoCal area, you really should take the time to go over to the shop and take a look around. They've got an AMAZING facility.
I'll try to shoot some video of the exhaust on cold start, etc but, to me, the sound clips never really bring out the true sound of the exhaust.
To me, the tone of the Cargraphic is almost identical but just a bit louder (in a very, very, very good way) to the PSE with the valves set to open full-time.
Not too loud to scare your neighbors but loud enough to be enjoyable at all RPMs, windows open/closed, radio on/off. Most important of all, there is no drone/resonance! This was a big concern of mine, having a tiptronic, but it's a non-issue here.
Build quality is top notch and the mufflers can with two different ends for the exhaust tips (one for the non-S variant, and one for the S variant) so that you could run your OEM tips or any number of tips out there.
Cargraphic also makes a "loud" version of this exhaust which, I'm sure sounds great too, but these are perfect for me (AND passed the "wife test"!)
I'm frankly surprised more people are not running these on their cars. Definitely a bit more pricey than say Fabspeeds but nothing outrageous (retail is around $2k).
If anyone in the OC area wants to hear the exhaust, I will be happy to audition them for you. PM/post here if you have any questions.
-Eddie
#2
Was Stuttgart open today on Sat? That was one of the two EVO places I was going to check out to get EVOMS flash, exhaust, and intake installed until I got all confused with people saying it offers nothing but sound.
Did the Stuttgart guys have various exhausts you could hear? Might be worth going down there even if I'm not doing the EVO setup anymore just to hear some exhausts. If they are open on the weekends, even better. And oh - Go Lakers!
Edit - I just checked out the Stuttgart website and when I entered my vehicle type - 911 carrera s 6cyl 3.8L (closest match as I have an 08 997.1 C4S), the only exhaust it said I matched was the evo one. Seems like cargraphic only goes onto 2004 or below MY 911 cars?
Did the Stuttgart guys have various exhausts you could hear? Might be worth going down there even if I'm not doing the EVO setup anymore just to hear some exhausts. If they are open on the weekends, even better. And oh - Go Lakers!
Edit - I just checked out the Stuttgart website and when I entered my vehicle type - 911 carrera s 6cyl 3.8L (closest match as I have an 08 997.1 C4S), the only exhaust it said I matched was the evo one. Seems like cargraphic only goes onto 2004 or below MY 911 cars?
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#4
Was Stuttgart open today on Sat? That was one of the two EVO places I was going to check out to get EVOMS flash, exhaust, and intake installed until I got all confused with people saying it offers nothing but sound.
Did the Stuttgart guys have various exhausts you could hear? Might be worth going down there even if I'm not doing the EVO setup anymore just to hear some exhausts. If they are open on the weekends, even better. And oh - Go Lakers!
Edit - I just checked out the Stuttgart website and when I entered my vehicle type - 911 carrera s 6cyl 3.8L (closest match as I have an 08 997.1 C4S), the only exhaust it said I matched was the evo one. Seems like cargraphic only goes onto 2004 or below MY 911 cars?
Did the Stuttgart guys have various exhausts you could hear? Might be worth going down there even if I'm not doing the EVO setup anymore just to hear some exhausts. If they are open on the weekends, even better. And oh - Go Lakers!
Edit - I just checked out the Stuttgart website and when I entered my vehicle type - 911 carrera s 6cyl 3.8L (closest match as I have an 08 997.1 C4S), the only exhaust it said I matched was the evo one. Seems like cargraphic only goes onto 2004 or below MY 911 cars?
The definitely do EVOMS flash and the Cargraphic is definitely for 05-08 MY 997 and 997 S's (I have an 06).
Send Bryan a PM -- he's RSSbryan on here and is a board sponsor. Tell him Eddie with the Midnight Blue Carrera S with 2 pink car seats sent ya!
#5
Thanks, Larry and thanks again for sending me the clips of the Tubi. It was a toss-up between the two!
#7
went through same thing and couldn't be more happy. I really love how the cargraphic sound and i replaced the system on the turbo to cargraphic too.
enjoy
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#9
Sorry for the delay in responding, guys.
JJG - just the mufflers. I did not want to mess with the cats or replacing the headers. Sounds perfect to me.
philcr2800 - butt dyno indicates no loss (and no gain) in HP.
JJG - just the mufflers. I did not want to mess with the cats or replacing the headers. Sounds perfect to me.
philcr2800 - butt dyno indicates no loss (and no gain) in HP.
#10
It seems they do claim +10 hp with their mufflers -not saying where on th curve though.
http://www.cargraphic.de/sources/nav...language1.html
http://www.cargraphic.de/sources/nav...language1.html
#11
Congrats. I have the Cargraphic Loud installed on my '09 Turbo and am very happy with it. An aftermarket exhaust is a must have for the Turbo. Still doesn't sound quite as good as a normally aspirated engine with sports exhaust IMHO...
#13
If anyone of you guys are interested in the Cargraphic "loud" version, i happen to be selling mine
Just want to go back to stock for a while. Look for me in the "for sale" section. I'll probably have RSS take out my exhaust so you can pick it up there.
Just want to go back to stock for a while. Look for me in the "for sale" section. I'll probably have RSS take out my exhaust so you can pick it up there.
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