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Old 05-18-2009 | 05:46 PM
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As a daily driver? M3. Smoother ride, hi revving V8 (I really can't get past that - it sounds that good), and it blends in with every other 3 series BMW, so there is only attention from those that know exactly what it is.

As a weekend track car? C2S. It has Brakes. You need them.

Just my opinion. I'm not wearing a fire retardant suit. I chose neither.

* edit: I love the PDK in the C2's.
 

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I was consdiering an Enzo vs. a E92 M3. I am going with the M because it is faster, has better brakes and sounds much nicer.
 
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Originally Posted by AceRothstein415
NorthVan...it is apparent you track your car. I want to start getting into taking my car to the track, doing DE, etc. For this purpose (not all-out accelration/speed), 997S better in your opinion ?
Much better for the track, out of the box it is faster, handles better, and out brakes most cars. The only car that I would consider as a better track toy for me would be a 997 GT3.

Join the local PCA, they do great DE programs.
 
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Old 05-18-2009 | 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by 911dev
I was consdiering an Enzo vs. a E92 M3. I am going with the M because it is faster, has better brakes and sounds much nicer.
Thing is it isn't faster, does not have better brakes, and does not sound better than an Enzo. Thing is, a 911 is not an Enzo.
 
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Old 05-18-2009 | 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by NorthVan997C2S
Much better for the track, out of the box it is faster, handles better, and out brakes most cars. The only car that I would consider as a better track toy for me would be a 997 GT3.

Join the local PCA, they do great DE programs.
How is it faster out of the box? Considering the M3 is lapping faster than the 997.2, a MKI is going to get SPANKED unless it has the upgrades... that you seemed to need.
 
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Old 05-18-2009 | 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by 911dev
I was consdiering an Enzo vs. a E92 M3. I am going with the M because it is faster, has better brakes and sounds much nicer.
You also forgot that for the price on an Enzo you could have 15 E92 M3's...14 to crash when the brakes fade at the end of the straight away and into a tight corner, one to get you home.
 
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Old 05-18-2009 | 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by NorthVan997C2S
You also forgot that for the price on an Enzo you could have 15 E92 M3's...14 to crash when the brakes fade at the end of the straight away and into a tight corner, one to get you home.
True, 15 E92's would be nice, or 1 with pads for track duty...
 
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Old 05-18-2009 | 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by CURI0
How is it faster out of the box? Considering the M3 is lapping faster than the 997.2, a MKI is going to get SPANKED unless it has the upgrades... that you seemed to need.
Are you still here? Doesn't your dad want his car back yet? Or is your M3 on your Xbox that might be the only way a M3 beats the 997 (1 or 2).
 
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Old 05-18-2009 | 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by NorthVan997C2S
Are you still here? Doesn't your dad want his car back yet? Or is your M3 on your Xbox that might be the only way a M3 beats the 997 (1 or 2).
I like that I am striking a nerve, when are you planning to step up to a real track Porsche? Or is a GT3 only possible on your Xbox?

Shhh little guy, swallow your pride.
 
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Old 05-18-2009 | 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by AceRothstein415
Mildly considering to jump into one of these? 06 or 07 997S or a new M3. Any opinions/thoughts from owners appreciated. For reference, my current car is a 07 335i coupe 6-spd, stock, never got around to doing much to her. Thank you
I have an 08 M3 .
I have a 997tt .
I had a 997S .

The only things I like about the M3 are :
1) Space
2) Narrow body = less ding exposure . Great daily driver .
3) great sound system

Outside of that there is no reason to buy an M3. The 997S will out drive it , provide more fun , and is more refined and sophisticated. The run flats on the M are awful . BMW free service is a headache . The gear box is sloppy . The car is heavy, bloated and feels like a Mustang with class at best.

BTW --I like it more these days than i used to . I am going to keep it . If I had to buy all over again I would buy the Porsche .
 
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Old 05-18-2009 | 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by yrralis1
I have an 08 M3 .
I have a 997tt .
I had a 997S .

The only things I like about the M3 are :
1) Space
2) Narrow body = less ding exposure . Great daily driver .
3) great sound system

Outside of that there is no reason to buy an M3. The 997S will out drive it , provide more fun , and is more refined and sophisticated. The run flats on the M are awful . BMW free service is a headache . The gear box is sloppy . The car is heavy, bloated and feels like a Mustang with class at best.

BTW --I like it more these days than i used to . I am going to keep it . If I had to buy all over again I would buy the Porsche .
BMW free service is a headache? You sure that is not a dealer issue? Funny, I have no issues with it.

The car is not heavy or bloated and does not feel like a Mustang, lay off the Porsche kool-aid. You sure you are not driving a 328? Weird that the world's automotive press feels differently.
 
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Originally Posted by CURI0
The braking performance is not better, it is that they are more resistant to fade.

After time the M3 will lose braking performance whilst the PCCB's will stay in good condition.
 
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Old 05-18-2009 | 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Coreym997
After time the M3 will lose braking performance whilst the PCCB's will stay in good condition.
If you opted for the PCCB's.
 
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Old 05-18-2009 | 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by CURI0
I like that I am striking a nerve, when are you planning to step up to a real track Porsche? Or is a GT3 only possible on your Xbox?

Shhh little guy, swallow your pride.
I would never own an Xbox, I have better things to waste my time on, like have conversations on line with ignorant trolls like you.

As for the mods on my car, they were an attempt to more competitve with the 997 GT3. I have since accepted the fact that I should have bought the GT3 instead when I had to replace my first 997C2S, but there were very good reasons that prevented me from doing so.
 
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Old 05-18-2009 | 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by NorthVan997C2S
I would never own an Xbox, I have better things to waste my time on, like have conversations on line with ignorant trolls like you.

As for the mods on my car, they were an attempt to more competitve with the 997 GT3. I have since accepted the fact that I should have bought the GT3 instead when I had to replace my first 997C2S, but there were very good reasons that prevented me from doing so.
Ignorance is your faith in the 997. Wake up, it is not the performance car it once was. The Cayman would stomp it if Porsche was not cashing in on ego's like your own.

That is right, your car was not competitive out of the box, and would get TROUNCED by the DCT M3, period. You don't want to see it, but that is the reality. That does not make the 997 a bad car.
 


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