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Who wins in 1/4 : 997.1 C2S with X51 or 997.2 C2S?

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Old 07-04-2009, 07:21 AM
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Who wins in 1/4 : 997.1 C2S with X51 or 997.2 C2S?

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depends who's driving....
 
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is the 997.2 C2S with PDK??? And if the 997.2 also has Chrono, definitely yes...
 
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I'm thinking same driver and yes I guess PDK with sport chrono. This is just a theorhetical question is all.
 
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If the early reviews are right, a 997.2 C2S PDK will crush a 997.1 C2S. X51 adds perhaps a few whp but it won't make up for the efficiency/shift speed benefits of a PDK.

Initial 1/4 mile times put it in the high 11 second territory (11.8-12.0); which would give a 997.1 TT a run for its money.

In the real world, the story gets even better for the 997.2 due to the consistancy of launches/shifts relative to a manual.
 
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crush even a 997.1 with X51?
 
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Originally Posted by ucla95
crush even a 997.1 with X51?
X51 adds a few HP, sure - but it cannot possibly make up a deficit of 0.6-0.8 seconds in the 1/4 mile.

Disclosure: I own a 997.1 so definitely not biassed...
 
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Definitely the 997.2... The HP in the 997.1 with X51 and the 997.2 is pretty much the same The shift changes with the PDK is so much faster so 997.2
 
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.2 for sure. Not only because of the PDK (no power loss during shifts and keeps the engine in the best part of the power band) but the DFI engine is allegedly incredibly strong. Much more so than the .1 with X51. Reading Alex' posts about his green one, it sounds like a completely different experience.
And I too am a .1 owner so no bias. I just have a lot of respect for the technical advances in the new car.
 
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if both are 6 speed, then it should be very even, 381 vs 385 hp, and I'm biased.
 
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I would bet on a 997.2

add a few mods to the 997.1 (cats, LWFW) and it will be very interesting IMO.
 
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I'd bet that the 997.2 will edge out the .1.
 
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Originally Posted by NorthVan997C2S
I would bet on a 997.2

add a few mods to the 997.1 (cats, LWFW) and it will be very interesting IMO.
On the Track it would be debatable... But on a straight line the 997.2 would take the 997.1 with X51 plus few more mods that you mentioned...
 
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I'm betting trap speeds would be pretty similar...so which ever car gets off the line and has efficient shifts will win...that would go to the PDK equipped vehicle.
 
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Originally Posted by sin911
On the Track it would be debatable... But on a straight line the 997.2 would take the 997.1 with X51 plus few more mods that you mentioned...
I think that you are underestimating the mods, I was at a recent track day running a second slower (77 + 78 second laps) then a F430 Scuderia, and equal with an 997GT3RS. Some might be driver, but the LWFW really makes the engine get through it's revs quickly.

But stock, I would give it to the 997.2, especially if you add the PDK.
 


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