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Old 08-05-2009 | 06:21 PM
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Coping with normal auto mode

When I first drove PDK I thought to myself "who would want to be in 6th gear under 40 MPH" . Ok so it saves gas .. whoopie !!! If I wanted a Prius I would have bought one.

So I just resigned myself to avoiding normal auto except sport auto has the jerk downsift to 1st which can be avoided with some savy footwork but why bother . So I began to adapt and cope with nomal auto .

I started to learn something . First -one can override the gears which is nice but it still will find its way back up to those high gears . There is one other choice it takes really oressing the gas pedal and it will downshift . Now most of us imagine that pressing a gas pedal hard might make the car go too fast .. not in normal auto .. at least not right away because the shift is a bit longer.

There is hope for normal auto beyond gridlock traffic or long cruise control highway drives . I am still exploring this.
 
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Old 08-05-2009 | 06:27 PM
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Larry, even the old Tip id that.

With just a flick of the go pedal in full auto the trans knows you want to play and it will hold itself in a lower gear for a little while. I use it all the time including when I am coming up to a turn. It will downshift and be in the proper gear while you go around the corner.
 
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Old 08-05-2009 | 06:29 PM
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Thank you, Larry.

I am also becoming a fan of normal auto...when in auto. I was originally put off by the low RPMs, but I find if I ignore that and just drive, that the car does very well and doesn't poke around at all - I can only imagine that an "S" is even better (but I try not to think about that - could lead to trouble )

Maybe those guys at PAG and ZF know a thing or two afterall.
 
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Old 08-05-2009 | 07:00 PM
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Great. Just when I give up on auto mode (now that I'm out of the break-in period) and get so excited about manual, you go and tempt me to try it all over again. Thanks a lot... Just kidding, it simply shows how versatile this technology is. And, by the way, I will go try it...
 
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Old 08-05-2009 | 09:24 PM
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Larry if you have great patience....I do not...you can drive in normal mode very agressivly for a while and PDK will get a little more sporty. PDK will learn faster in sport or sport plus mode though. I played around with this at the track and just about had PDK re-learned....especially in Sport Plus mode....then I got with a group of friends and went back to manual mode. An other instructor at the track drove his PDK all day in auto sport plus mode and said it finally re-programed itself and shifted in auto more perfectly.

Heck even my wife dive PDK in sport mode....normal mode is just too weird.
 
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Old 08-05-2009 | 09:34 PM
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Mike -
1) 10 MPH on USI in traffic fir 5 miles is fine for normal auto.
2) Cruise control at 55 takes some of the shift worry away, eats less gas, and reduces tickets .

Outside of that .. normal mode sucks . Thus I cope.
 
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Old 08-05-2009 | 10:07 PM
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Mike -
1) 10 MPH on USI in traffic fir 5 miles is fine for normal auto.
2) Cruise control at 55 takes some of the shift worry away, eats less gas, and reduces tickets .

Outside of that .. normal mode sucks . Thus I cope.
Yep, I agree....lucky for me I do not have to sit in traffic like US1 south of Miami to Kendall...I hate that area when I travel down there for work.
 
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Old 08-05-2009 | 10:26 PM
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Yep, I agree....lucky for me I do not have to sit in traffic like US1 south of Miami to Kendall...I hate that area when I travel down there for work.
Actually US1 gets congested all the way from I95 all the way to homestead it seems. Worse than USI is the Palmetto Expressway . It's a highway worse than a city street . Most of the traffic in South Florida seemed to begin after Hurricane Wilma in 2005 and I have no idea why .

Although as bad as it is in Florida it is nothing compared to the 405 in Los Angeles . A PDK cab in LA is almost like slow motion sun tanning.
 
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Old 08-05-2009 | 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted by yrralis1
... There is one other choice it takes really oressing the gas pedal and it will downshift . Now most of us imagine that pressing a gas pedal hard might make the car go too fast .. not in normal auto .. at least not right away because the shift is a bit longer.
All good autos do that actually - it's called kickdown. The PDK also responds to progressive throttling in a smooth way and Normal mode is adaptive and it's only slow if one is slow.
 
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Old 08-06-2009 | 02:28 AM
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adias -I took delivery of the car with 30 miles on it or so . I only have 400 miles and most of the normal auto has been driven in a slow driving style so if it is learning my style I could see that it wold be slower .

I would imagine this would be the case with most drivers though . If he wanted to go faster he would select sport or opt for manual . Mike even posted that he lacks the patience for normal auto and he's not the only person who has said this . I can somewhat agree with him too but i am trying to find the best use of that mode and there are some .. but they do tend to be on the slow side of driving.
 
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Is PDK really that good or is it just a fad? The idea of getting into any car without 3 pedals for my feet to play with makes me uncomfortable. The only car I could imagine not caring is a Ferrari or Lambo as I love the sound they make when you downshift.
 
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Old 08-06-2009 | 10:08 AM
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No luck for me this morning with normal auto. Guess I don't have the patience either. Think I'll stick with manual...
 
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Originally Posted by yrralis1
Actually US1 gets congested all the way from I95 all the way to homestead it seems. Worse than USI is the Palmetto Expressway . It's a highway worse than a city street . Most of the traffic in South Florida seemed to begin after Hurricane Wilma in 2005 and I have no idea why .

Although as bad as it is in Florida it is nothing compared to the 405 in Los Angeles . A PDK cab in LA is almost like slow motion sun tanning.
I get over to the US a couple of times a year and to Florida pretty regularly for business. Gotta say that the amount of traffic down there is pretty amazing. LA you expect that but Florida surprised me, although I have to say an evening cruise I did up the coast road and the 101 to Santa Barbara a few years ago was very memorable. 90 mph with the roof down on the hire Mustang listening to Led Zep and getting passed by a Viper. Wouldn't happen here - our thought police think 105km/h (65 mph) makes you a certified killer.

When in Florida I'm mostly around Orlando tripping up and down the I4 or across town on roads like the 528 or I-Drive. Have done the Tampa trip a couple of times (including to St Petersburg for the Dali Museum - wow!) but last year took a couple of days off and drove down to the Keys which was great. Also did the Daytona tour which was brilliant - what a facility.

So every time I read about you guys talking of those roads it brings back good memories, even if the roads themselves are mostly straight. I'm over there again for a week in October, after a couple of weeks in New York next month as well. This time I'm thinking I'll do a day trip down to Sebring and look around there. The history of places like that fascinates me.

Sorry for the off-topic ramble but I couldn't resist!
 
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