305 vs 295
#46
I'm really not sure that the PS2's are significantly better than competing tires. Other tires do just about as well in the independent tests. The PS2's are a good tire, no doubt, but there are others that are as good, and those others tend to be better value for money. I had PS2's on my 2007 S Coupe, and personally I was actually a little underwhelmed.
Last edited by swajames; 10-02-2009 at 10:35 AM.
#47
Hi Guys (and Girls)
I just bought a 911S Cab and need new tires - got the original Michelin Pilot Sports that are done.
I am thinking about following the recommendation of this thread of going with 305/30s and found Bridgestone Potenza RE-11 "Extreme Performane Tires (http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....omCompare1=yes) with pretty good reviews at great prices (Front $184/Rear $320).
They are probably pretty bad in snow, cold weather and rain, but living in Vegas eliminates that problem.
Do you guys have any thoughts/experience with those tires?
Tks a lot
I just bought a 911S Cab and need new tires - got the original Michelin Pilot Sports that are done.
I am thinking about following the recommendation of this thread of going with 305/30s and found Bridgestone Potenza RE-11 "Extreme Performane Tires (http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....omCompare1=yes) with pretty good reviews at great prices (Front $184/Rear $320).
They are probably pretty bad in snow, cold weather and rain, but living in Vegas eliminates that problem.
Do you guys have any thoughts/experience with those tires?
Tks a lot
#48
One thing to keep in mind regarding tghe RE11's, they aren't equal in load rating and speed rating of the OEM tire. It is probably inconsequential but just wanted to throw that out there.
Dave
Dave
#49
Dave
while tire shopping this morning I found out the same thing and I actually think it is important, maybe not the top speed rating (well, but even that for the occassional empty road in the middle of nowhere), but the load rating and the stress on the tire.
I decided to go with Pirellis PZero Rosso 305/30 19" instead, saved about $500 on the Michelins I considered and had the best test result at a recent test at Sport Auto (done on a Techart 911S - http://www.sportauto-online.de/somme...2-1037240.html - Google will translate it)
#50
Dave
while tire shopping this morning I found out the same thing and I actually think it is important, maybe not the top speed rating (well, but even that for the occassional empty road in the middle of nowhere), but the load rating and the stress on the tire.
I decided to go with Pirellis PZero Rosso 305/30 19" instead, saved about $500 on the Michelins I considered and had the best test result at a recent test at Sport Auto (done on a Techart 911S - http://www.sportauto-online.de/somme...2-1037240.html - Google will translate it)
while tire shopping this morning I found out the same thing and I actually think it is important, maybe not the top speed rating (well, but even that for the occassional empty road in the middle of nowhere), but the load rating and the stress on the tire.
I decided to go with Pirellis PZero Rosso 305/30 19" instead, saved about $500 on the Michelins I considered and had the best test result at a recent test at Sport Auto (done on a Techart 911S - http://www.sportauto-online.de/somme...2-1037240.html - Google will translate it)
I agree with you actually and it is the reason why I wouldn't get these tires. However, a few have tracked these tires (not AutoX) and they had good results. Did you go with the Nspec Pirelli's? I want to know how you saved $500 as the price I see for the Nspec are about the same as the PS2s.
Dave
#51
I agree with you actually and it is the reason why I wouldn't get these tires. However, a few have tracked these tires (not AutoX) and they had good results. Did you go with the Nspec Pirelli's? I want to know how you saved $500 as the price I see for the Nspec are about the same as the PS2s.
Dave
Dave
I got PZero Rosso Assimetrica 305/30ZR19XL 102Y N1 (I think the N1 refers to your Nspec, right?) - http://www.discounttire.com/dtcs/tir...89123&pc=41030
Total price installed including tax for all four tires came to $1750 vs $2137 for the Michelins (and my car has currently Michelins that are terrible - purely because of age (just bought the car, 2006 with 26000 miles and it had the original tires, pretty much shot!!!!).
#52
I got PZero Rosso Assimetrica 305/30ZR19XL 102Y N1 (I think the N1 refers to your Nspec, right?) - http://www.discounttire.com/dtcs/tir...89123&pc=41030
Total price installed including tax for all four tires came to $1750 vs $2137 for the Michelins (and my car has currently Michelins that are terrible - purely because of age (just bought the car, 2006 with 26000 miles and it had the original tires, pretty much shot!!!!).
Total price installed including tax for all four tires came to $1750 vs $2137 for the Michelins (and my car has currently Michelins that are terrible - purely because of age (just bought the car, 2006 with 26000 miles and it had the original tires, pretty much shot!!!!).
I like the Pirellis, I know I'm a minority in this opinion but as far as performance goes I think they are up there with the PS2s. Its just when they age they get noisy.
Dave
#53
Tirerack has the set of 4 delivered for around the same price at $1760 delivered to my door. The Pirellis were $100 cheaper...
I like the Pirellis, I know I'm a minority in this opinion but as far as performance goes I think they are up there with the PS2s. Its just when they age they get noisy.
Dave
I like the Pirellis, I know I'm a minority in this opinion but as far as performance goes I think they are up there with the PS2s. Its just when they age they get noisy.
Dave
#54
Not bad at all..I think you will like the Pirellis. My rears went out at around 15k miles and was deciding to go with a whole set of 4 PS2s or just 2 new Pirellis in the 305 size, I went back with the Pirellis.
Good job..
Dave
#56
Hi Guys (and Girls)
I just bought a 911S Cab and need new tires - got the original Michelin Pilot Sports that are done.
I am thinking about following the recommendation of this thread of going with 305/30s and found Bridgestone Potenza RE-11 "Extreme Performane Tires (http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....omCompare1=yes) with pretty good reviews at great prices (Front $184/Rear $320).
They are probably pretty bad in snow, cold weather and rain, but living in Vegas eliminates that problem.
Do you guys have any thoughts/experience with those tires?
Tks a lot
I just bought a 911S Cab and need new tires - got the original Michelin Pilot Sports that are done.
I am thinking about following the recommendation of this thread of going with 305/30s and found Bridgestone Potenza RE-11 "Extreme Performane Tires (http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....omCompare1=yes) with pretty good reviews at great prices (Front $184/Rear $320).
They are probably pretty bad in snow, cold weather and rain, but living in Vegas eliminates that problem.
Do you guys have any thoughts/experience with those tires?
Tks a lot
If you go with Bridgestone, use Bridgestone Potenza RE050A (Max Performance Summer) They are N0 (Porsche) rated.
#57
I got PZero Rosso Assimetrica 305/30ZR19XL 102Y N1 (I think the N1 refers to your Nspec, right?) - http://www.discounttire.com/dtcs/tir...89123&pc=41030
Thanks
#58
#59
stick with the 305's they are a great tire, if you are looking for a excellent tire, ps2 are the way to go, on the street and for the highway. Especially if you drive everyday, you get better wear than the other choice, which would be pirelli? nitto idk about them, i never had those on a car b4. good luck with everything though.
Last edited by rvhpno80; 10-04-2009 at 10:49 AM. Reason: mispelling
#60
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