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Old 09-15-2009 | 04:08 PM
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Wsuppp guys, this question is for the guys with coils, because the ones with springs have a set lowering height.... for you guys with coils, how low have you set your ride? Can a few of you post pictures of your rides on coils...Not to many have their cars sitting NASTYYYY LOW, is there a reason you guys dont dump the cars? I was thinking when I get my coils Id like to go as low as I can, anybodys car SUPERRR LOW? post pics please...
 
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Old 09-15-2009 | 04:16 PM
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You can go real low with CO's but you will be outside the limits of the stock tie rods etc... In order to go super low and maintain close to stock suspension geometry you will need to also purchase some aftermarket dog bones at the very least.

One of GMG's WC GT3's.... Moton CO's with all aftermarket ties.



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See my post in your other thread.
 
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I wouldn't go overboard with lowering because I'd want it to actually be functional and have an effect on handling rather than the looks. Slamming the car just doesn't work for many reasons in day to day life. I can see maybe doing that if you had the car displayed at a car show or something, but even then slamming the car too low just starts looking tacky.
 
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Well, if you're looking to cruise Hollywood Blvd. totally slammed, you can do it. Unlike many cars though, the 997 will give you some trouble. The front of the car extends pretty far in front of the front wheels. If you have an aero kit or any kind of spoiler, the car drags on driveways even at stock height. Check out the car in the pic from JEllis. Any driveway, parking garage, you name it, that thing is going to drag. Those with the aero kit generally consider the bottom piece disposable since it will hit often. Go as low as you can, but just thought I'd warn of the consequences. My car is stock height and with the TechArt spoiler, I scrape on many driveways.
 
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I have my car lowered to ROW height, any lower and it is too low for performance handling
 
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Old 09-15-2009 | 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by NorthVan997C2S
I have my car lowered to ROW height, any lower and it is too low for performance handling
Well, without other modifications to the suspension. I have seen GMG's shop 997S.... that thing is low but I dont think anything is stock!

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Not sure how much I lowered it but,
I couldn't imagine going any lower......already boycotting speed bumps and misc stuff on the road...


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Originally Posted by ryem3
Well, if you're looking to cruise Hollywood Blvd. totally slammed, you can do it. Unlike many cars though, the 997 will give you some trouble. The front of the car extends pretty far in front of the front wheels. If you have an aero kit or any kind of spoiler, the car drags on driveways even at stock height. Check out the car in the pic from JEllis. Any driveway, parking garage, you name it, that thing is going to drag. Those with the aero kit generally consider the bottom piece disposable since it will hit often. Go as low as you can, but just thought I'd warn of the consequences. My car is stock height and with the TechArt spoiler, I scrape on many driveways.
Ive already scraped on stock height... FML ... I want it low enough to where the car can still handle and do what porsche does best, but also low enough where it looks nice...Not talking honda civic on 16" wheels low, But LOW... Stacys car (justatoy) is a perfect example

Originally Posted by NorthVan997C2S
I have my car lowered to ROW height, any lower and it is too low for performance handling
Not sure what "ROW height" is, can you please explain??? Thanks

Originally Posted by justatoy
Not sure how much I lowered it but,
I couldn't imagine going any lower......already boycotting speed bumps and misc stuff on the road...


My album has many pics...

Stacy

Stacy your car is acually 1 car I looked at that made me want to sit low and get 20s, youve got 20s, and your car sits BEAUTIFULLY, what setup are you running? hows the ride in the street (everyday), does it still handle like a porsche? Thanks
 
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Originally Posted by PersianGodFatha
Ive already scraped on stock height... FML ... I want it low enough to where the car can still handle and do what porsche does best, but also low enough where it looks nice...Not talking honda civic on 16" wheels low, But LOW... Stacys car (justatoy) is a perfect example
Just a word on advice - if you decide to do this - go with CO setup that will allow you later to revert car back as high as possible. Any coilovers will result in some non-recoverable drop (from a half to a full inch depending of brand) but you will find most likely that for normal life you DO NOT want car dropped at all. All that 'looks' crap will evaporate from your mind when you`ll start leaving parts of your car on any other road imperfection. 911 looks perfectly fine the way it goes out of a factory door, but, to each his own.

I am scraping my car a lot on stock height when driving it around. Lowering it for more than an inch works well only I guess if car is used specifically for racing only, my gut feeling is that going that low it will become unusable as a daily driver.

PS. If your finances do allow that - you can do CO set with hydraulic lifts - that would be definitely unique.

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I found myself ALWAYS in sport mode with the stock suspension SO....
I am running with the JIC coilovers.I didn't want to 'buck-up' the extra money for more expensive PASM compatable coilovers because being this low I didn't need adjustability,I am on the firmest setting all the time,and didn't want to bottom out when the suspension moved...
Once installed I had the PASM turned off by the dealer(so the annoying light would go away).YES everything CAN be returned back at any time!


The ride would be a bit stiffer than that of factory sport mode...so it is pretty good,rougher(which I like) but OK.
I wouldn't have done it any other way,no regrets!

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Originally Posted by PersianGodFatha
Not sure what "ROW height" is, can you please explain??? Thanks
Rest Of World height is the height that Porsche ships there cars out as, to everywhere except North America.

The North American ride height is higher due to our bumper height limits and the surfaces of our roads.
 
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Originally Posted by NorthVan997C2S
Rest Of World height is the height that Porsche ships there cars out as, to everywhere except North America.

The North American ride height is higher due to our bumper height limits and the surfaces of our roads.
I'm sure you've posted it before, but how did you accomplish that? Springs or CO? That would suggest the German springs provide a different ride height - and would also suggest that a lower ride height is perfectly compatible with PASM.

I drive with the PASM on sport over 60 mph, then it provides great control. Below 30 mph on any uneven pavement and the thing is brutally stiff. I think it is virtually unusable at slow speeds, almost like a racecar suspension. Don't know if others find the same thing.
 
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Originally Posted by ryem3
I'm sure you've posted it before, but how did you accomplish that? Springs or CO? That would suggest the German springs provide a different ride height - and would also suggest that a lower ride height is perfectly compatible with PASM.

I drive with the PASM on sport over 60 mph, then it provides great control. Below 30 mph on any uneven pavement and the thing is brutally stiff. I think it is virtually unusable at slow speeds, almost like a racecar suspension. Don't know if others find the same thing.
I guess most people who claim how they do love 'firmness' of race oriented CO systems do not really drive their cars much on a street.
 
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Originally Posted by ryem3
I'm sure you've posted it before, but how did you accomplish that? Springs or CO? That would suggest the German springs provide a different ride height - and would also suggest that a lower ride height is perfectly compatible with PASM.

I drive with the PASM on sport over 60 mph, then it provides great control. Below 30 mph on any uneven pavement and the thing is brutally stiff. I think it is virtually unusable at slow speeds, almost like a racecar suspension. Don't know if others find the same thing.
Most good Porsche shops will have the specs required to adjust your CO's to most Porsche 997 Specs (GT3 height, ROW GT3 height, ROW 997S etc etc).... You could buy the ROW springs but their pricey and in the end a set of Eibachs would be just as good or better.

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