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Old 11-22-2009 | 11:14 PM
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Excitement personified in metal, leather and glass.

I am now a proud member of an automotive cult that own a PORSCHE. Just got a brand new 997.2 C4S. She is probably one of the few remaining well optioned '09 C4S's still available in the lots on the west coast. Got her for 14% of MSRP but trust me it become a moot point minutes thereafter as she is clearly priceless. Within minutes after starting the ignition, it was quite clear that to own her was one of the best decisions that I've made in my life, second only to my choice of life partner, my ever loving and supportive wife. When I drove her even the highway patrol gave me a thumbs up. The two hour drive back home was an ultimate motoring pilgrimage.

First impressions: I was amazed in the auto mode (with the PDK) at how smooth and instant the shifts are. Although it is automatic it seems to be just in the gear that I would have selected in the manual. Even if you are unlikely to use launch control, please go with the sports chrono package. It is totally worth it just for the two buttons on the dash namely the sport and sport plus mode. It gives an entirely new meaning to the word sporty...a pure anesthetic effect. PORSCHE..there is no substitute.

Here is the first picture of my baby bathed in GT silver taken while the sunlight was fast fading.
 
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Old 11-22-2009 | 11:32 PM
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Awesome --I can't wait to see more pics !!! The C4S in Gt silver the way yoir car is optioned must be amazing . If you drove it home in the evening --wait till you see it in the sunlight . It has this awesome spaceship appearance cruizing on the road . No wonder the trooper gave you the thumbs up !!
 
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Old 11-23-2009 | 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted by w00tPORSCHE
I finally narrowed it down to a GT silver/dark grey natural leather (full leather interior) which is actually just two hours from where I live.[...]

The car is MSRP'd at $125K and am looking at a 12% off the sticker price.
For what it's worth while you're negotiating, or if you decide to walk out and buy elsewhere, I've been doing a lot of inventory searchs in our area (SoCal) using our insurance company's Zag link. I spec'd a car as you described it, except for running out of patience tracking down all the deviating color stitches and crests here and there. The MSRP I reached was $119,170 and it was offered in our area for 106,096. I found those Zag guaranteed prices to be very close to what I could get with adept negotiating, so they are a good target. I didn't think in terms of percent off so much as dollars above dealer actual cost and for negotiating "out the door" prices. In California, with our prices, I'd be looking for an out the door price of 117k or so for that car.

Checking a statistical summary, the "TrueAverage" price paid by buyers in our area was a little over 111k before T&L&fees. The dealer cost after their incentives and holdbacks and what have you was $104,600 and the invoice is $105,900. So the price dealers are offering to guarantee for Zag buyers is only $1,500 over their cost.

Hope all that helps. I've never used Zag arrangements before, but I found it helpful to have a guaranteed price to use as a talking point even when I ended up wanting a car slightly different than the one I had spec'd. When I came home from buying a used 2009 yesterday, out of curiosity I ran the Zag price for a couple of others I had been offered in the same dealer. The dealer's opening offer hadn't been more than a few hundred above Zag, and of course I'd not have paid his opening offer.

For what it's worth, as I say.
 
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Old 11-23-2009 | 01:00 AM
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Originally Posted by w00tPORSCHE
I am now a proud member of an automotive cult that own a PORSCHE. Just got a brand new 997.2 C4S. [...] Got her for 14% of MSRP but trust me it become a moot point minutes thereafter as she is clearly priceless. Within minutes after starting the ignition, it was quite clear that to own her was one of the best decisions that I've made in my life, second only to my choice of life partner, my ever loving and supportive wife. When I drove her even the highway patrol gave me a thumbs up. The two hour drive back home was an ultimate motoring pilgrimage.
Boy, do I agree. I just took that ride home yesterday in my own first Porsche. You leave all the negotiating behind and unleash the grin as soon as you get out of sight of the dealer, don't you? I pulled over to the curb half a block away so I could turn to Cindy and tell her how much I loved the car "Now that we're out of the dealer's hearing and not bargaining."

I didn't see this post before my last one about sales price statistics, but it sounds to me like you got a very good price. I suspect those little nice touches like distinctive stitches are things you'll come to love, but they looked to the dealer like items he can't get much return from. Not at their MSRP I mean. Did you confirm someone's hunch that a car loaded with beauty items like yours was originally a special order whose buyer backed out?
 
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