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Old 11-23-2009, 11:24 AM
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Car and Driver 10 Best Omits 997

...but includes Boxster/Cayman. In their 10 Best they include a Ford Fusion Hybrid over a 997 and a Corvette.

They set a price limit at I think $80k, and with this limit you could just about fully trick out a Boxster or Cayman, yet have to stick w/ a bare bones Carrera. They also claim that you get better "driver enjoyment" out of a Boxster/Cayman.

Having owned both a Boxster S (which was tricked out) and a 997.1 with a few mods, I have to go with the 997. The Boxster interior is very cramped for taller people which made it tough for me. Don't get me wrong, I think Boxsters/Caymans are great cars, but...can't say I agree with C&Driver's conclusion here.
 
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...but includes Boxster/Cayman. In their 10 Best they include a Ford Fusion Hybrid over a 997 and a Corvette.

They set a price limit at I think $80k, and with this limit you could just about fully trick out a Boxster or Cayman, yet have to stick w/ a bare bones Carrera. They also claim that you get better "driver enjoyment" out of a Boxster/Cayman.

Having owned both a Boxster S (which was tricked out) and a 997.1 with a few mods, I have to go with the 997. The Boxster interior is very cramped for taller people which made it tough for me. Don't get me wrong, I think Boxsters/Caymans are great cars, but...can't say I agree with C&Driver's conclusion here.
I do think that C&D put a lot of focus on "value" when compiling the 10 Best which is why it will always tend to favor cars that perform well but cost a bit less than ours (witness the perennial inclusion of the 3-series). The Cayman/Boxster is (arguably) a better dollar for dollar value than our 997s and both are great cars that deserve to be in the list, but neither car made my own personal 10 Best when I was out in the market.
 
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Old 11-23-2009, 11:32 AM
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And the problem is? Does the 997 need confirmation as a great sports car?

The Cayman is a great car too.
 

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I also have to admit that the Boxster offers comparable performance to the 911 and Corvette at a significantly lower price than the 911. I am glad I was able to get my 911 but the Boxster offers a lot of fine car for the $$.
 
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don't worry too much about the C&D list, they always pick the same car company/cars for every years. I guess they don't want to upset anyone.

as far as I can remember, boxster has always been on the list since its introduction, and 911 was never on as they will only give one space to Porsche.
 
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I don't disagree. If $80k is the price cap, I'd rather have a Cayman/Boxster S with nice options than a bare bones Carrera.

An 09' Carrera S with my specs is in the $100k range...if which case, getting a used 997.1 GT3 makes a whole lot more sense to me.
 
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I believe a new Cayman S would be a nice little treat on the track With a mid-engine rear wheel drive and 320 HP & 273 lb-ft torque it should be amazing!

Throw some racing wheel and tires along with a suspension upgrade, and then just enjoy
 
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i think the limit had to be 80k, because there is no way carrera shouldn't be on this list, the performance, fun factor, and resale value, is a plus all around.....
 
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