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Old 12-11-2009, 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by rockstardoc
So the question then is, "Why have high flow cats in the first place?" If it won't pass then it's best to go with others that get the full cat bypass instead of high flow cats. Someone please enlighten me.

Maybe it makes the customer feel he/she is not contributing to global warming by having some form of emissions control vs. none at all?
As V35 stated in his post but in addition...you will probably get a CEL light to kick off due to the hot signal from the 02 sensors. This would require software or a 02 extension to get around this. Also, I do appreciate cleaner air. You also live in LA county, I guarantee that you will get a fix it ticket for excessive noise if you run no cats.

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You don't have to smog your car for the first 5 years, if you have a 2008 you have another 4 years to go before your first smog. It's not until the 6th year on new vehicles that they have to be smogged.

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Understood and I appreciate that my perspective won't seem reasonable to many but taking equipment on and off a car to have it smogged is a pain in the *** I don't want to deal with no matter when it's done.

But that's just me.
 
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Understood and I appreciate that my perspective won't seem reasonable to many but taking equipment on and off a car to have it smogged is a pain in the *** I don't want to deal with no matter when it's done.

But that's just me.

Why would it seem unreasonable? It is what it is...

I like to wrench on my car so for me its not biggy, for others it is. Either way enjoy that 997

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Originally Posted by Dave07997S
As V35 stated in his post but in addition...you will probably get a CEL light to kick off due to the hot signal from the 02 sensors. This would require software or a 02 extension to get around this. Also, I do appreciate cleaner air. You also live in LA county, I guarantee that you will get a fix it ticket for excessive noise if you run no cats.

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Thanks for the clarification. So it sounds like the cats play a big role in the sound of the exhaust note too. It's just too bad the high flow cats need to be exchanged out every time smog tests come around. Not such a big deal since it's an easy swap, but it would've been nice not to worry about it.
 
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Originally Posted by rockstardoc
So the question then is, "Why have high flow cats in the first place?" If it won't pass then it's best to go with others that get the full cat bypass instead of high flow cats. Someone please enlighten me.

Maybe it makes the customer feel he/she is not contributing to global warming by having some form of emissions control vs. none at all?
Well the small gains you can get can also be offset by the probability of CELs on the NA cars. Most of our clients track their cars and at some point or another the higherflow cats tend to come apart. This is even true for stock cats to a degree so we just don't sell/install them
 
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Well the small gains you can get can also be offset by the probability of CELs on the NA cars. Most of our clients track their cars and at some point or another the higherflow cats tend to come apart. This is even true for stock cats to a degree so we just don't sell/install them
no issues now for almost 3 years...although haven't tracked yet. To be honest if I was tracking I would probably just go with the cat by pass at the track and with software with rear 02 deletes. Alex, to be honest I don't think it was that small of a gain. In the Porsche sense for bang for the buck I think the cats are one of the better mods out there.

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Originally Posted by rockstardoc
Thanks for the clarification. So it sounds like the cats play a big role in the sound of the exhaust note too. It's just too bad the high flow cats need to be exchanged out every time smog tests come around. Not such a big deal since it's an easy swap, but it would've been nice not to worry about it.
I did it because I knew I wouldn't need a smog test for almost 6 years. I don't even know if I will even own this car within that time period. Just return it to stock and someone gets some brand new OEM cats as the cats got yanked off the car at 800 miles.

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