I finally understand PDK's allure
#16
12-30-2009, 02:37 PM
I thought there was. There would not be Priuses if not for Hollywood and San Francisco. Here in the Bay Area I know many people get those due to peer-pressure. PC run amok.
#17
12-30-2009, 04:01 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8J0-ZatDHug
I do think the doudle-clutch is the automanual of the future in all cars. Based on what's happened in the past, look for Nissan, Mazda (copied the Tip), VW and a Corvette perhaps, using this. It really sounds like the best of both worlds, especially if you are in traffic like we have in Houston.
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#18
12-30-2009, 04:14 PM
I drove a PDK C2S and after the first 5 minutes of saying that this is just a sharp automatic transmission, I (well, actually it) started to rip off 7K RPM shifts with precision that I could never do on my own. So after 15 minutes, I can now say I "get it", i.e., what you PDK guys are so excited about. I still wonder if after a few days of these perfect shifts, I'd be back to being bored, but ...
and to change the subject, if I see one more movie where the Porsche driver is a ***** (if that is censored, let's try jerk-off)...the latest one is "It's Complicated". Lots of shots of a 997.2 cab driven by Alec Baldwin who is an immature, adulterous, a$$hole lawyer. What the heck is wrong with you guys that you have such a bad image?
and to change the subject, if I see one more movie where the Porsche driver is a ***** (if that is censored, let's try jerk-off)...the latest one is "It's Complicated". Lots of shots of a 997.2 cab driven by Alec Baldwin who is an immature, adulterous, a$$hole lawyer. What the heck is wrong with you guys that you have such a bad image?
As for the image, I have to agree with the others that hollywood and media play into the downside or feed the masses negative perception of owners. I am located in the midwest (kind of), and they are few and far between in the land of pickups and SUV's and 'practical' automobiles. I, personally, go out of my way when I drive my C2S to be friendly and overly courteous (let others in line at traffic light, yield in parking lot to let other cross, wait at 4-way stop for all others to go, and so on); just to show we can and 'are' good people.
Now, when I get in my daily driver, I'm a completly different driver. Not an a$$, but not nearly as polite when driving the Porsche.
#20
12-30-2009, 06:52 PM
I think it is much more in that - in all recent liberal stereotype getting imprinted into brains of mass population that it is a shame to be successful and work hard for success. Youths are fed by MTV programs where 20 year olds spend time trading t-shirts and copulating, mass culture also shifted heck knows where. I am not an old person myself but I was raised on perception that any person HAS TO WORK. But now..
Hollywood caters to masses and masses mostly dislike all those who are above them in any aspect. Then we get movies about prominent NYC lawyers giving up and moving to north dakota, about doctors who gave up CA practice and settle down in the middle of nowhere sh#thole, etc, etc.
Or take all that recent rant about CEO bonuses. Just become a CEO you damn lemmings and then decide who earned what. But, as we migrate not even into Russians` version of socialism but into something even more ridiculous, all that looses any sense and logical objectivity.
Hollywood caters to masses and masses mostly dislike all those who are above them in any aspect. Then we get movies about prominent NYC lawyers giving up and moving to north dakota, about doctors who gave up CA practice and settle down in the middle of nowhere sh#thole, etc, etc.
Or take all that recent rant about CEO bonuses. Just become a CEO you damn lemmings and then decide who earned what. But, as we migrate not even into Russians` version of socialism but into something even more ridiculous, all that looses any sense and logical objectivity.
On the topic at hand, I have a general question for the folks with PDK. If it had not been available would you have gotten a manual or automatic transmission?
#26
12-31-2009, 08:39 AM
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The whole idea is to beat up on anyone that does vs those who don't.
Oh; the saying is, there are those who have and those that don't. Change the word have to does and you have the answer to the equation.
Oh; the saying is, there are those who have and those that don't. Change the word have to does and you have the answer to the equation.
#27
12-31-2009, 10:22 AM
I've been in a PDK car twice, thought it was boring the first time but actually liked it the second time, after I already had a manual car. Going to be a toss up on my next porsche but I might end up with the dual clutch box.
What annoys me most about the perception of those of us who are successful is that it was all given to us - we just woke up one day in a nice house with a porsche in the garage and are therefore arrogant ****** to be derided. At some point in life, it is pretty likely that we were or are working our tails off while those who sneer at us weren't. Liberal government has the same problem - I am fairly young and already sick of paying for the lazy and entitled segment of society.
What annoys me most about the perception of those of us who are successful is that it was all given to us - we just woke up one day in a nice house with a porsche in the garage and are therefore arrogant ****** to be derided. At some point in life, it is pretty likely that we were or are working our tails off while those who sneer at us weren't. Liberal government has the same problem - I am fairly young and already sick of paying for the lazy and entitled segment of society.
#29
12-31-2009, 04:54 PM
I've been in a PDK car twice, thought it was boring the first time but actually liked it the second time, after I already had a manual car. Going to be a toss up on my next porsche but I might end up with the dual clutch box.
What annoys me most about the perception of those of us who are successful is that it was all given to us - we just woke up one day in a nice house with a porsche in the garage and are therefore arrogant ****** to be derided. At some point in life, it is pretty likely that we were or are working our tails off while those who sneer at us weren't. Liberal government has the same problem - I am fairly young and already sick of paying for the lazy and entitled segment of society.
What annoys me most about the perception of those of us who are successful is that it was all given to us - we just woke up one day in a nice house with a porsche in the garage and are therefore arrogant ****** to be derided. At some point in life, it is pretty likely that we were or are working our tails off while those who sneer at us weren't. Liberal government has the same problem - I am fairly young and already sick of paying for the lazy and entitled segment of society.
Off topic I agree with you in general terms. But I have the same fundamental problem with the bonus structure of companies that we have bailed out as I do with those who don't sneering at those who work. Whether they are directly or indirectly on the government teat is pretty much irrelevant to me. For the financial industry institutions that have "paid back their debts" to say that they are now free from any other obligations is disingenuous at best. If they really want to live in a free market, lets give them back all their collateralized debt that the Fed has assumed for them. Then they can mark it to market and pay the appropriate bonuses. In other words I don't mind brand X paying their executives whatever they want. I DO mind you and I doing it which is effectively the case here.
#30
12-31-2009, 07:11 PM
The PDK is awesome and great for a daily driver BUT nothing takes the place of a true manual (clutch on the floor, shifting yourself). I love driving the Porsche but sometimes driving a car EVERY day could take a little of the excitement away. When i drive the Vipers (which are only manuals) you feel more involved with the car...hard to explain. But I could never drive them everyday.
+1.
I agree entirely.
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