I'm considering getting a set of GT3 front calipers, and if I do, my 09 C2S calipers would be available. I wonder if C2S calipers and rotors are a direct swap... If you find out, let me know.

 

There are no stupid questions. If you do not like brakes on your car - get to any racing shop and ask them if they have 996 GT3 brakes and get them installed instead of your stock ones - it will be cheaper than to sell whole car if brakes is the only issue that bothers you.

 

Base car has 130mm on front 130mm on rear distances between caliper bolts. 996 TT and gt3 has 140mm and I believe C2S car should also have 140mm in front. Measure yours and you will find out.

Distance between caliper bolts should be the only issue there to allow or not to mount any caliper.

 

I honestly can't understand this discussion -

• first you ask about the difference between S and non-S
• then you tell us you want to change cars to either Cayman or S because of breakpads
• Then you say that you are on a budget (why you bought the base)
• then you are happy with your car if you get can S-pads
• now you are looking at a GT3

Those are pretty wide spreads in terms of capabilities and character of cars, never mind the difference in financial commitment ....

 

 

Sorry for the hijack...

Will S/GT3 brakes fit the 997.1?

 

Its dangerous to think out loud!

Just opening up to whatever options I may have out there.

I am in a position to get an S whereas that wasnt a possibility last year.

The GT3 is my ideal car, and while I had set 2015 as the year I would purschase one, I wonder if pulling the trigger now wouldnt be the best thing.

Is it worth doing a BBK? Dont know just yet. While I thought I was ok with the closed claiper design of my car, it might be a major pain down the road.

I jumped into a Porsche because I thought (erroneously) they were more track ready out of the box. They arent except for the GT3 I suppose.

I am somewhat torn between the handling characteristics (and now hopefully the reliability of the .2 Cayman) but love the rear engined classic that the 911 is.

So yes I am looking at a wide variety of possibilities.

I could bolt on a brake kit from another Porsche with better pad availability if possible (which wont be that inexpensive)

I could go Brembo BBK ($6K front and rears not including labor)

I could just say screw it and get an S or move things forward and get a GT3 and be done for the long run.



And this is just my problem: I thought the Cayman S would hold me over (it did for about 2 yrs) but the blown engines, blue smoke at the track happening randomly to the cars, Porsche not advising race tires etc etc put me off.

Then I thought the 911 would do it but due to the reasons mentioned above, I find myself frustrated.

 

You need a GT3, and it sounds like you have the budget. Brakes will not make you happy on the C2. You will find the next limit, invest more money, and still want the GT3. This process will loop until the GT3 is in your garage, or you are broke.

Keep your car as-is and wait for a good GT3, then buy it. Invest the 6k-10k in the interim. If your situation changes again, you will be happy to have the 6k, and a reliable 911.

I know your intent was to get an opinion. Respectfully, this is mine...

 

Oh, and enjoy your car in the process!

 

Thank you. I think the real issue is that I want a GT3. Probably nothing else will satisfy.

 

The pre-DFI engines are "non motorsport derived"?? Huh ? They're all motorsport-derived at this point, with design mods, etc w/ learning from racing experience. It was quoted in Excellence mag that the 2005 models had the IMS issue, which was redesigned to a more robust single-row bearing. In fact, by 2007 the issue should have been mostly solved w/ the single row bearing.

 

[quote=afridi;2714721]Its dangerous to think out loud!


And this is just my problem: I thought the Cayman S would hold me over (it did for about 2 yrs) but the blown engines, blue smoke at the track happening randomly to the cars, Porsche not advising race tires etc etc put me off.


I'm not sure I buy this business about these flat sixes being so unreliable at the track. I mean, they've been racing these since the 70's. I suspect that the ones that are blowing up aren't maintained properly. And these engines do consume some oil, which is normal.

 

[quote=chance6;2715606]http://www.planet-9.com/cayman-boxst...-response.html


http://www.planet-9.com/cayman-boxst...e-failure.html

http://www.planet-9.com/cayman-boxst...-problems.html

Not to get into an argument..... I would say that I thought the general consensus was that the Turbo/GT3/GT2 had the race derived engine. Those engines do not suffer oil starvation under heavy g loads. The 987 1st gen engine wasnt as durable on track. Even some without compitition tires, did blow up. Most people who track their cars are probably more careful about maintainence than others.

 

[QUOTE=afridi;2715867]The 997.2 DFI engine has a completely revised oil sump system.

Many people drive 997.1 M96/M97 engines on tracks without problems.

 

[quote=adias;2715885]I know - I just worried a bit too much about the M96/97 engines which led to to the DFI.

Maybe I need some prozac.