i m currently working a deal with a dealership on a 07 911S cab..

http://walters.porschedealer.com/2007/Porsche/911+Carrera+S+Cabriolet/Riverside/CA/Slate+Grey+Metallic/grey/542052/info.php

Mileage 12,446 mi Transmission 6-Speed Manual Exterior Slate Grey Metallic Interior Natural Leather Brown
CUC - Painted Model Desig Rear Lid
P15 - Power Seat Package
XME - Rear Ctr Cons Painted Extr Clr
670 - Navigation for PCM
XD9 - Rims and Caps - Exterior Color
M6H - Natural Brown Floor Mats
342 - Heated Front Seats
CPT - Storage Bin Lid W/Porsche Crst
XSC - Porsche Crest in Headrest
998 - Leather Interior Natural Lthr
640 - Sport Chrono Package Plus
680 - Bose High End Sound Package


just love this color combo..

orig. asking $69,989, the dealership is offering it to me at $65,989.. but from doing some research here, it still appears to be too high..

it is CPOed and has the natural leather..

what is the fair price on such a car for the dealer?

what is an acceptable price for me to pay?

and at what price should i just walk away? i realize the last Q may be subjective, but i'd appreciate any inputs from the experts !

 

nice options too

 

Sounds like a very nice car! Make sure you get a DME scan to make sure it's as good as it looks.

I agree with $64K in the current market for a perfect car.

 

I love that my car has appreciated in value since last year...
Seriously, though get a PPI on the car and a DME scan. Pretty low miles so it hasn't been driven, you want to make sure the RMS isn't already leaking although you are still covered by warranty.
I think the natural brown full leather is a really expensive option - almost double the cost of normal full leather.
CPO is also a plus, so you will pay for that in the price.
Others will probably say this is a very high price for this car. I say you get what you pay for and it looks very nice. Run the Carfax as well - I would presume that it is a one owner car. That is in the price.
Good luck and make a deal!

 

I don't think you're too far off. A 2007 coupe with that mileage would be in the mid 50s to low 60s. Add the cab premium, the fact that its spring time, and you're in the ballpark.

 

Yes...64k

I'm familiar w/ Walter's

they will deal..

good luck

 

I like the car . It sure is priced high though

This sounds like a great car and convenient though ... I hope the DMe scan shows a nice car and 64 ought to close it.

 

thx guys !

64k huh?

do i hear 63??

seriously tho, i was hoping to get it closer to the 60 k.. like 61.

but seeing that most of u agree that its priced ok at 64, i will offer $62 and see what happens.

hoping to get a DME print out tomorrow (tue) so i can post it here for some additional feedback (since it prob wont make too much sense to me.. .. i do know that over-rev 3 or 4 is a red-flag)

i will check the tires for tread-wear/life

and the top for leaks

but what exactly is RMS ? and how do i check that for leaks?

thx !

 

Any offer is an offer . I do feel its outrageous that they are asking 70K for the car when one considers that i paid 84K and change for an 09 997S new (MSRP 105K).

I understand that the market is high and i also realize that your region woild be competitive . I did see another dealership out of state with much lower prices but i read a few experiences from 6speeders which turned me off on suggesting it.

You may have found a good car and only the tests will show how good. Check everything , every button , even the roof for leaks , anything you can think of .. because at that price .. it has to be right .

I feel that 64 ought to close it .. but that is the absolute max.
You can split hairs and hope for the low 60's . Realistically that car traded in in the 50's (plus they had to CPO it) and it does have nice options.

If you are willing to let the car sit a few days .. offer 61.5 and let them sleep on it and keep looking. The money is better off in their pocket than sitting on the lot collecting dust and that's exactly what i would say to them.

 

$64K + $8K = 2009 C2S Coupe, well optioned, sub 5K mile
$64K + $14K probably = same as above, but in Cab

Have you considered a used '09? Even if not, you may consider using the above arithmatic to help negotiate. What this means is that the above equations don't support $64K, as the delta to an '09 is small enough for you to go with an '09.

My opinion is for you to offer $60K, and go no higher than $61.5K.

Another method that can help you find a great car a great price is:
* Identify your must-haves (e.g. color, couple vs. cab, 6spd vs. tip or PDK, mileage, minimum options such as full leather, etc.)
* Identify your nice-to-haves (e.g. Bose (LOL), Nav, etc.,)
* Identify what your won't-haves (e.g. anything that's important not to have, that's not mutually exclusive in your must-haves)
* Do a national search on autotrader, cars.com, eBay (visit dealer site and access their site's listing), and PorscheUSA
* Build simple spreadsheet to organize your potential cars -- rank order by most to least desired, with least desired still meeing your must-have requirements
* Assemble your datapoints to broadly support asking price and ceiling price for each car
* Contact each dealer (or PP) and make your offer, tell them only contingent upon passing a PPI and other standard pre-purchase inspections. Let them know you've made several offers and that the offer is also contingent upon hearing back from the other dealers -- tell them you'll make a decision in 2 full business days (make sure this timeframe works for you).
* At end of day 2, bump your final negotiated prices against your list. Make your decision and pull trigger (after the inspection of course).

Good luck & have fun with the hunt!

 

wow ! thats more than just food for thought.. its like a seven course meal !

thanks for great advices!

i was under the assumption that a 09 S Cab loaded similarly will be about $115k-125k brand new.
if i was able to find one with less than 5k miles, i 'd think the selling price would be above $80k (?) which would be more than i'd spend on a used 911.. unless it was a turbo

side note - call me vain , but i found that i really like the natural full-leather.. but it appears that most cars that have this option usually has the Bose, Nav, etc (things i really don't require).. oh well

 

I say it alll the time --the used market is so close to the new prices that it makes sense tro buy a new car unless every cent counts.

BTW --there is a HUGE price gap between what thse cars are asking and what they are trading in for . No wonder so many of the used cars are sitting for months.

Natural full leather usually does have other goodies but yanno what -- they sometimes add a nice touch .

 

It all depends on how important the slate/natural brown combo is for you. I agree that a '07 911S Cab, CPO, 12K miles, with a clean DME/carfax, Bose, Nav, Chrono, Center Console, etc might be about $60-62K (say in silver or black), but the uniqueness of the Slate/Nat Brown is definitely worth something. Last winter (Feb 2009) when looking for a '07 C2S, I could NOT find the 2 colors I really wanted- Atlas and Slate- in a low mile, one owner, well-equipped, CPO-ed example; they were mostly Silver or Black. Although I ultimately paid high 50's for my silver one, I would have gladly forked over another 5K for a more unique combination - like Atlas/Nat Grey or Slate/Nat Brown, and ultimately, "settling" for the silver in part led my trading it in last month.

So if you think this car is a keeper, the extra $3-5K is definitely worth it in the long term if you're in love with the color combo. However, if you might trade it in 9 months from now, it's probably not something you'll recoup in that short a time-

 

Fang, I'd like to hear your thoughts on not sticking it out for your optimal color. I keep thinking I'll regret that choice, but alas Silver and Black are much easier to find than Blue.

 

Sub4, damn- i just lost a long answer responding to your last post- stupid laptop. Bottom line, if you're the type of guy who notices / cares about the "cosmetics" of your car, and it's something you're going to keep for awhile, definitely wait for and pay a little extra for the color you want. When buying my '07 C2S in Feb 2009, I just couldn't wait, got all caught up in the "fever" of getting my first 911, and landed an otherwise pristine CPO'ed Arctic/Blk, which was perfect in all other ways except for color and non-full leather. While silver looks great, it just didn't "pop" for me and I had my heart set on Atlas, GT Silver, or Slate + Full leather (preferably natural gray). Perused national dealer inventories for 3 weeks and just gave up, although have come across several since that time. After the first month, I still enjoyed driving the car but always kept wishing that I had waited a little longer and paid a little more for the right color/leather combo- to the point I inquired about trading in my car for an Atlas one vs possibly repainting it and installing full leather interior trim.

In retrospect, I would definitely wait for the right one, unless you're looking for some paint-to-sample example (like maritime or mexico blue) in which case you might as well just order one or buy some special glasses that makes a silver car look the way you want it. You don't want to plunk down $55-60K and think "man, I wish it was a different color". The extra wait and $3-5K (over years of ownership) is absolutely worth it-