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Old 03-11-2010 | 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by mact3333
Now if there is a black C4S layed out on our freeway in pieces you guys will know what happened hehe...oh well, ya only live once....
If we get a chance to meet-up and go for a drive after your install, can I be sure to lead

j/k, I'm sure everything is going to turn out great and you'll love them.
 

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Old 03-11-2010 | 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by JoeShark
If we get a chance to meet-up and go for a drive after your install, can I be sure to lead

j/k, I'm sure everything is going to turn out great and you'll love them.
Joe,

Im having Jeremy install them...how funny, havent been to Matrix since like 2003....hope they havent moved.

Sure, you can lead...wouldnt want a cone washer putting out an eye or anything....
 
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Old 03-12-2010 | 12:00 AM
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Bilsteins are a high end reliable product. After seeing that last thread with both shocks suffering an identical failure the safe money would be on an an install problem and not a product problem. Bilstein wouldn't have declined the claim without good reason. One shock breaking...maybe...but two, and, on the same car...cmon. Something went wrong somewhere.
Have you ever heard the saying; a bad mechanic always blames his tools...(and parts) . Fit em up and give it plenty!
 
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Old 03-12-2010 | 07:22 AM
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For the record, Bilstein not only is one of the most highly regarded aftermarket suspension manufacturers in the world, they are also the OE supplier of the shocks on PASM Porsches.

You don't see stock shocks snapping.

The aftermarket shock materials are manufactured and tested to the same standards as the factory parts.

Hysteria seems to be taking over on this issue. There is two reported cases of failed shocks like this, and they are both on the SAME CAR installed by the SAME PERSON.

There is a question if the necessary washer was installed on the first shock and there is a question whether that washer on the other shock was installed right side up or upside down (which makes a huge difference).

In my professional opinion after being in this industry for 19 years, this is not a failure due to manufacturing.
 
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Old 03-12-2010 | 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Todd/AWE
For the record, Bilstein not only is one of the most highly regarded aftermarket suspension manufacturers in the world, they are also the OE supplier of the shocks on PASM Porsches.

You don't see stock shocks snapping.

The aftermarket shock materials are manufactured and tested to the same standards as the factory parts.

Hysteria seems to be taking over on this issue. There is two reported cases of failed shocks like this, and they are both on the SAME CAR installed by the SAME PERSON.

There is a question if the necessary washer was installed on the first shock and there is a question whether that washer on the other shock was installed right side up or upside down (which makes a huge difference).

In my professional opinion after being in this industry for 19 years, this is not a failure due to manufacturing.
I agree with Todd. Completely
 
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Old 03-12-2010 | 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Todd/AWE
For the record, Bilstein not only is one of the most highly regarded aftermarket suspension manufacturers in the world, they are also the OE supplier of the shocks on PASM Porsches.

You don't see stock shocks snapping.

The aftermarket shock materials are manufactured and tested to the same standards as the factory parts.

Hysteria seems to be taking over on this issue. There is two reported cases of failed shocks like this, and they are both on the SAME CAR installed by the SAME PERSON.

There is a question if the necessary washer was installed on the first shock and there is a question whether that washer on the other shock was installed right side up or upside down (which makes a huge difference).

In my professional opinion after being in this industry for 19 years, this is not a failure due to manufacturing.
Just because they are made in the same factory as OEM products, doesn't mean the products will be up to OEM standards.

Porsche might hold Bilstein upto stricter restrictions then what Bilstein might hold itself to.
 
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Old 03-12-2010 | 11:07 AM
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Just because they are made in the same factory as OEM products, doesn't mean the products will be up to OEM standards.

Porsche might hold Bilstein upto stricter restrictions then what Bilstein might hold itself to.
No offense, but I was not making an assumption, I was stating a fact. The aftermarket parts ARE held to the same OE standards. We are direct with Bilstein and have been since 1999.
 
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Old 03-12-2010 | 11:32 AM
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No offense taken. I'm just merely trying to state that just because something is OEM or has OEM standards of regulations that things can still go wrong.
 
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No offense taken. I'm just merely trying to state that just because something is OEM or has OEM standards of regulations that things can still go wrong.
This is true with everything. A faulty wheel could shatter. A faulty tire could blow out. A faulty strut could fail. A faulty brake system could fail. Even with the best testing standards, these problems are all still possible, but they not very probable.
My Bilsteins are on their way and I can't wait to get them installed next week.
 
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Sways would be an issue but easily resolved with adjustable drop links.
 
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