Not me. I've seen those problems in other people's cars. What's so difficult to flip a mirror at night?

 

Like ADias, I won't have them and wouldn't have ordered them if spec'ing our p-car. My reason may not be that of others, but you see I really want to see what's behind me, not just a glaring indication that something is there. Without the glare-defeating layer you can pick up details that let you identify the make of each car or at least their general configurations, and you can always judge the closing rate. I grew up driving freeways and the practice of picking up cars half a mile back as they close on me is so ingrained that it makes me feel positively claustrophobic when I have to flip the prism to the glare-reducing side. It's all part of the position awareness I was taught, but let me point out one aspect: if you leave the glare reduction off, you can recognize a law enforcement vehicle closing from behind. Most of them aren't working traffic and couldn't care less what speed you're cruising at -- within reason -- but one in three is the vehicle working the beat you're crossing. Useful knowledge.

Gary

 

It has a button - if you do not it to work you turn it off.
I got to say those mirrors are working perfectly and I like them on my car very much.

 

Does that work better than not putting a check in the order box?

Gary

 

Nice S bike Robert. I had mine for 4 years and just traded it in on a GT. I miss the S badly. Amazing that two bikes with the same basic engine and frame can ride so differently.

Enjoy,
DRP

 

I agree with the previous posts, but my "beef" is most of us that buy Porsches have another expensive car ot two in our garage. I get in my wife's 750i and it has all the gagets. If I drive that car for any length of time, I have to remember in my Porsche to hold the sunroof to close it or turn off or the lights because they are not automatic.

Before anyone starts to flame me about being soft, I raced Porsches for 12 years and understand the 911 is a variant of the racecar, but the new 997s has been redesigned to be a more friendly sportscars than its predecessors. Give us the small gagets that are standard on Mercedes and BMW on these cars and leave them off the GT3 street and cup versions.

 

DRP thanks for the compliment on the K1200S. Eventually, I may end up with a GT when my body gives up on the slightly more agressive riding position! Oh, and both bikes have auto on headlights, probably for safety reasons .

 

Hmmm. Some statements have too much political perspective embedded to permit a direct answer. I will only disagree to the extent of noting that such devices make driving less safe for a driver trained as completely as I was, and as are many others. I would propose making such training mandatory before mandating gadgets.

A full and diverse economy should -- and will -- produce cars suitable for people whose likelihood of an accident is affected by such items. But I also think it will produce cars like the Porsche and several others we all could name. I don't think such people as those in the first category should be driving cars like those in the second category.

It is not mandatory for all people to buy Porsches, so it should not be mandatory that Porsches be designed for all people.

Gary

 

Right on!

 

are you guys really having discussion about dimming mirrors? If you want them check the box.. if not, don't check it... pretty simple... Now why can't they provide those check boxes for auto headlights..

 

I don't have auto-dimming mirrors because I didn't see enough info on the boards about it. But wow its annoying, I'm completely blinded at night as a majority of the cars on the road are higher than a porsche. Does anyone know of a fix for this?? I've done a search but nothing real conclusive shows up... (this should be standard)

 

Why aren't you flipping the center mirror to the night position using its built-in lever? It works very well. If the side mirrors are adjusted properly, they cause no problem.

 

yes I am flipping the center mirror thanks, as for the side mirrors I just flip them up all the way so I see nothing through them. Its no surprise the new porsches will have cameras for side mirrors. Perhaps its because I underwent Lasik and its more annoying for me than most, but its my only gripe, otherwise I'm in love with her.

 

Get a quirky boxer RT and keep the S. That's what I should have done.

Funny you tied the bikes into the headlight post. The GT has Xenons but, they still can't figure a way to have the headilght redirect in a turn to illuminate the corner. I guess it's a geometry nightmare once you factor in variable lean angles.... It'll happen soon enough I bet.

Take care,
DRP

 

I'm not talking about the Porsche exclusively, but auto-light functions on vehicles in general. The LED DLRs on the 09+ cars are different, and not the same as headlights, and importantly, don't illuminate tail lights either. In daytime longer tunnels, it is much more difficult to spot cars running without headlights and/or tail lights among traffic that does have headlights/taillights illuminated. At night the tunnel illumination works well, yes, but during sunny days, there is enough ambient light the tunnel illumination frequently isn't bright enough, and its not just the general illumination, but how a car compares to the other vechicles in the tunnel.

Absolutely true. My point, however, was that if drivers have auto-light controls, they are even less involved in operating their vehicles lighting system and are more likely to not pay attention to the dash indications. If you are turning on your headlights manually, you are at least engaged with the lighting controls and marginally paying attention to the instrument cluster area. I suspect the probability of you manually turning on the headlights and leaving the high-beams on is much less than you leaving the high-beams on with auto-lights.