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Old 04-03-2010 | 04:19 PM
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Ok socalsteve, AKA SLAPPY, you're so worried about boring why did you purchase a silver Carrera? You should rush down to the dealer and pick up a Turbo instead of just owning the wheels
 
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Old 04-03-2010 | 04:34 PM
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Ok socalsteve, AKA SLAPPY, you're so worried about boring why did you purchase a silver Carrera? You should rush down to the dealer and pick up a Turbo instead of just owning the wheels
Why are you getting so defensive and calling me names???

I am not worried about anything. I posed a question.

As for my "silver" Carrera, it is anything but boring considering it is the special color : GT Silver Metallic. It is so dynamic, its anything but boring.

As for buying a Turbo and not just the wheels, I honestly never even considered a car that has way more HP than I would or could ever use and I dont like or need the 4 wheel drive aspect of it (beyond the aesthetics of it being pushed out more, that's why I opted for wheel spacers instead).

I could have chosen any wheels I wanted. I just like the look of the turbo wheels the best. The fact that they come on a turbo means nothing to me.

All the best,

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Old 04-03-2010 | 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by socalsteve
Why are you getting so defensive and calling me names???

I am not worried about anything. I posed a question.

As for my "silver" Carrera, it is anything but boring considering it is the special color : GT Silver Metallic. It is so dynamic, its anything but boring.

As for buying a Turbo and not just the wheels, I honestly never even considered a car that has way more HP than I would or could ever use and I dont like or need the 4 wheel drive aspect of it (beyond the aesthetics of it being pushed out more, that's why I opted for wheel spacers instead).

I could have chosen any wheels I wanted. I just like the look of the turbo wheels the best. The fact that they come on a turbo means nothing to me.

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You didn't ask a question. You egotistically stated your opinion as fact.

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Hey guys didn't the webmaster say he was changing the name of this place to pdkonline.com

socalsteve,

I opted for the traditional manual 6 speed in my car because I've been driving them "forever" and I take pride in the skills I've acquired with this type of transmission like heel/toe downshifting etc. over the years Having said that I also have tremendous respect for the new PDK double clutch transmission that Porsche is offering. I test drove a Cayman equipped with PDK when I was shopping last spring. The salesman threw it in sport plus mode and I was blown away at the incredible fast shifts some of them as high as 7200 rpm! There is no doubt that the PDK transmission shifts faster than any human can shift a traditional manual. Even "The Stig" from Top Gear would lose to a PDK equipped car.

We should not forget that the idea of paddle shifting came from Formula 1 racing. While I'm not a hard core motorsports enthusiast I do watch Formula 1 racing from time and time. This is auto racing in its highest form. These cars use cutting edge technology to achieve the incredible 200+ mph speeds they do. To my knowledge there are no F1 teams still using traditional manual transmissions, they are all using paddle shift technology.
 
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Originally Posted by Auto_Union
Hey guys didn't the webmaster say he was changing the name of this place to pdkonline.com
I like this idea

Maybe the webmaster should change the name of this thread to:
PDK Rant & Rave

In the spirit of good will I'm sorry for calling Socalsteve "slappy"

So Steve, if you ever come to NC I'll buy you a beer. If you don't drink you can kick me or something
 
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We should not forget that the idea of paddle shifting came from Formula 1 racing. While I'm not a hard core motorsports enthusiast I do watch Formula 1 racing from time and time. This is auto racing in its highest form. These cars use cutting edge technology to achieve the incredible 200+ mph speeds they do. To my knowledge there are no F1 teams still using traditional manual transmissions, they are all using paddle shift technology.
all true but nevertheless i still prefer 6speed manual for my mostly street car. it makes it funnier.

i still cannot master seamless transition from 1st into 2nd during intense acceleration - sometimes i can match rpm ok but most of time i give car a good jerk. not sure why as i drive manuals for most of my life and i`m almost 40. odd thing. but 997 is a one pretty demanding car.
 
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To each their own. Seems like you are picking a fight here.

Why do you care how other people choose to shift their car?
 
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It saddens me that the H pattern is going the way of the dodo bird, but as of yet no one has figured out a way to make a 7 speed gearbox a true manual which is one of the reasons the M5 7 speed was an SMG. 7th gear can be a big OD and 1st can have a really agressive ratio like the GTR due to the ability for the car shift so fast.

Plus lets not forget Porsche invented PDK, its part of their heritage! The 956 and 962 were race cars, not SUV's that you drove to the grocery store or sedans you took your business partners to lunch in!
 
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Originally Posted by utkinpol
all true but nevertheless i still prefer 6speed manual for my mostly street car. it makes it funnier.

i still cannot master seamless transition from 1st into 2nd during intense acceleration - sometimes i can match rpm ok but most of time i give car a good jerk. not sure why as i drive manuals for most of my life and i`m almost 40. odd thing. but 997 is a one pretty demanding car.
I think this sentiment sums it up 110%. There is NO greater satisfaction than a seamless shift. From whatever gear to whatever gear, when you nail it, you just know it! Thats a huge part of driving a sports car. The instant feedback, the control, the fact that it is you and your talent-coordination-experience and NOT a computer.

You will never even come close to this feeling when you drive a PDK-Tiptronic-Steptronic-whatever automatic transmission that has flappy paddles.

And, that's sad for all of you that wont get that feeling.

Just sayin'

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socalsteve, why are you so angry? My car is a 6 speed but I would buy a pdk. It's a great technology. So is a Ferrari not a real sports car to you? oh i c....
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PDK is an amazing technical achievement, plus for a DD I'd love the auto mode for bumper to bumper city traffic- Ive caused some clutch wear ($$$) doing that constantly with a 'traditional' manual.
 
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shifting with the paddles is real shifting - just no clutch to press...ive had both..only driven the pdk for a few days but so far i love it..plus the launch control is amazing..i gaurantee i will beat you off the line to 60, 1/4 mile or whatever...you have no chance against me with launch control
 
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Originally Posted by socalsteve
I think this sentiment sums it up 110%. There is NO greater satisfaction than a seamless shift. From whatever gear to whatever gear, when you nail it, you just know it! Thats a huge part of driving a sports car. The instant feedback, the control, the fact that it is you and your talent-coordination-experience and NOT a computer.

You will never even come close to this feeling when you drive a PDK-Tiptronic-Steptronic-whatever automatic transmission that has flappy paddles.

And, that's sad for all of you that wont get that feeling.

Just sayin'

Flappy

Who says those who have PDKs do not know the feeling of clutching/shifting manually?!?

I have a PDK as well as manual transmission cars. I routinely do, on my manual cars, seamless shifts with rev matching et al. I also experience the performance and advantages of a proper sequential manual (aka PDK).

It is very telling to read about those who brag about manuals and confess how often they fail at shifting... It appears that their PDK putting down has much to do with their own limitations.

I think that this thread should be titled - "Isn't slamming PDK a jerky-reaction to one's limitations?"

Let's move on.
 

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Originally Posted by socalsteve
I think this sentiment sums it up 110%. There is NO greater satisfaction than a seamless shift. From whatever gear to whatever gear, when you nail it, you just know it! Thats a huge part of driving a sports car. The instant feedback, the control, the fact that it is you and your talent-coordination-experience and NOT a computer.

You will never even come close to this feeling when you drive a PDK-Tiptronic-Steptronic-whatever automatic transmission that has flappy paddles.

And, that's sad for all of you that wont get that feeling.

Just sayin'

Flappy
You won't get a more seamless shift than you will when driving a pdk and that's a fact.
 
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Old 04-03-2010 | 06:29 PM
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You won't get a more seamless shift than you will when driving a pdk and that's a fact.
Yeah, but its a computer doing it for you and that's what I find sad...
 
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Old 04-03-2010 | 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by P997S
shifting with the paddles is real shifting - just no clutch to press...ive had both..only driven the pdk for a few days but so far i love it..plus the launch control is amazing..i gaurantee i will beat you off the line to 60, 1/4 mile or whatever...you have no chance against me with launch control
I think you are missing the point. I have no doubt that the computer would win...Its the satisfaction of "doing it yourself" and not having a computer do it for you.
 


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