I've dared the 997TT forum...
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04-06-2010 | 02:48 PM
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Lots of "Talk" here Casey.......I am SURE Cattman would love to take you up on that challenge...
BUT PLEASE make it YOUR BEST turbo Cayman,LOL!
Stacy
BUT PLEASE make it YOUR BEST turbo Cayman,LOL!
Stacy
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04-06-2010 | 03:15 PM
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Heck no, I can't compete in that class and I know it- not by a longshot.
I am really just interested to see how I'd do against a stock 997TT. I know yours would eat me for lunch, Larry, but that's not the comparison I'm looking for- I've got more sense that that! Or at least I hope I do
CATTMAN
I am really just interested to see how I'd do against a stock 997TT. I know yours would eat me for lunch, Larry, but that's not the comparison I'm looking for- I've got more sense that that! Or at least I hope I do
CATTMAN
The concern I see is that a 997S and even a Turbo is tested to OEM spec . Once it's modified one basically is taking it into unknown territory . These cars going near 200 and above are breaking new ground but it's not a Porsche test .
In short racing aTurbo would push both you and your car to it's limit and with that any driver or mechanical error poses a danger . I understand that you want to do this on a drag strp and that is the legal way to do it but just because its legal doesn't mean its safe. You might ask yourself .. its it worth it ?
You have 5 great years with your car .
If i thought it was safe and i thought you had a chance to win I might feel differently.
One thing you are learing though about challenging the guys on the Turbo forum .. even most there don't challenge each other. We respect each others cars and even if one may think his car is faster he doesn;t boast or call out the others .. because ALL the cars are fast and we all bought them because at heart we love the Hp. In short ..winning isn't everything .
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04-06-2010 | 03:23 PM
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That Cayman S Turbo is impressive based on that dyno, that's for sure. It's power/weight ratio must be fantastic, and with mid-engine balance would be a blast on track.
Based on that dyno, my car should be pretty even or slightly ahead of a stock 997TT. I've got more HP, and weigh less. However, they'd have the edge from a stop with AWD. Would certainly be interesting- that's why I want a real world head to head on a legal stretch.
I'd love to see your Cayman S Turbo, and drive one!
CATTMAN
Based on that dyno, my car should be pretty even or slightly ahead of a stock 997TT. I've got more HP, and weigh less. However, they'd have the edge from a stop with AWD. Would certainly be interesting- that's why I want a real world head to head on a legal stretch.
I'd love to see your Cayman S Turbo, and drive one!
CATTMAN
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04-06-2010 | 03:27 PM
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I'm not sure aboit the supercharged car but with a stock turbo the boost kicks in it's all over for the C2S. The Turbo just wails in third and forth gear.
The concern I see is that a 997S and even a Turbo is tested to OEM spec . Once it's modified one basically is taking it into unknown territory . These cars going near 200 and above are breaking new ground but it's not a Porsche test .
In short racing aTurbo would push both you and your car to it's limit and with that any driver or mechanical error poses a danger . I understand that you want to do this on a drag strp and that is the legal way to do it but just because its legal doesn't mean its safe. You might ask yourself .. its it worth it ?
You have 5 great years with your car .
If i thought it was safe and i thought you had a chance to win I might feel differently.
One thing you are learing though about challenging the guys on the Turbo forum .. even most there don't challenge each other. We respect each others cars and even if one may think his car is faster he doesn;t boast or call out the others .. because ALL the cars are fast and we all bought them because at heart we love the Hp. In short ..winning isn't everything .
The concern I see is that a 997S and even a Turbo is tested to OEM spec . Once it's modified one basically is taking it into unknown territory . These cars going near 200 and above are breaking new ground but it's not a Porsche test .
In short racing aTurbo would push both you and your car to it's limit and with that any driver or mechanical error poses a danger . I understand that you want to do this on a drag strp and that is the legal way to do it but just because its legal doesn't mean its safe. You might ask yourself .. its it worth it ?
You have 5 great years with your car .
If i thought it was safe and i thought you had a chance to win I might feel differently.
One thing you are learing though about challenging the guys on the Turbo forum .. even most there don't challenge each other. We respect each others cars and even if one may think his car is faster he doesn;t boast or call out the others .. because ALL the cars are fast and we all bought them because at heart we love the Hp. In short ..winning isn't everything .
The issue I care about, and perhaps am alone in that, is my car vs a stock 997TT. That's all.
I am not challenging any individual, but want to see the 2 cars perform purely as a gearhead, not a swaggering pissing contest. Hope you're not implying that I am being that way, as my intent is purely from a non-ego based intellectual curiosity. Winning isn't everything, I agree. But as I said clearly, all I want to know is how my car, with it's mods, would compete against a stock 997TT.
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04-06-2010 | 03:35 PM
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And the numbers look GREAT too!
I'm not sure aboit the supercharged car but with a stock turbo the boost kicks in it's all over for the C2S. The Turbo just wails in third and forth gear.
The concern I see is that a 997S and even a Turbo is tested to OEM spec . Once it's modified one basically is taking it into unknown territory . These cars going near 200 and above are breaking new ground but it's not a Porsche test .
In short racing aTurbo would push both you and your car to it's limit and with that any driver or mechanical error poses a danger . I understand that you want to do this on a drag strp and that is the legal way to do it but just because its legal doesn't mean its safe. You might ask yourself .. its it worth it ?
You have 5 great years with your car .
If i thought it was safe and i thought you had a chance to win I might feel differently.
One thing you are learing though about challenging the guys on the Turbo forum .. even most there don't challenge each other. We respect each others cars and even if one may think his car is faster he doesn;t boast or call out the others .. because ALL the cars are fast and we all bought them because at heart we love the Hp. In short ..winning isn't everything .
The concern I see is that a 997S and even a Turbo is tested to OEM spec . Once it's modified one basically is taking it into unknown territory . These cars going near 200 and above are breaking new ground but it's not a Porsche test .
In short racing aTurbo would push both you and your car to it's limit and with that any driver or mechanical error poses a danger . I understand that you want to do this on a drag strp and that is the legal way to do it but just because its legal doesn't mean its safe. You might ask yourself .. its it worth it ?
You have 5 great years with your car .
If i thought it was safe and i thought you had a chance to win I might feel differently.
One thing you are learing though about challenging the guys on the Turbo forum .. even most there don't challenge each other. We respect each others cars and even if one may think his car is faster he doesn;t boast or call out the others .. because ALL the cars are fast and we all bought them because at heart we love the Hp. In short ..winning isn't everything .
We as Porsche owners should NOT have boundaries......and or classes,LOL!
That Cayman S Turbo is impressive based on that dyno, that's for sure. It's power/weight ratio must be fantastic, and with mid-engine balance would be a blast on track.
Based on that dyno, my car should be pretty even or slightly ahead of a stock 997TT. I've got more HP, and weigh less. However, they'd have the edge from a stop with AWD. Would certainly be interesting- that's why I want a real world head to head on a legal stretch.
I'd love to see your Cayman S Turbo, and drive one!
CATTMAN
Based on that dyno, my car should be pretty even or slightly ahead of a stock 997TT. I've got more HP, and weigh less. However, they'd have the edge from a stop with AWD. Would certainly be interesting- that's why I want a real world head to head on a legal stretch.
I'd love to see your Cayman S Turbo, and drive one!
CATTMAN
Stacy
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04-06-2010 | 03:44 PM
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One thing you are learing though about challenging the guys on the Turbo forum .. even most there don't challenge each other. We respect each others cars and even if one may think his car is faster he doesn;t boast or call out the others .. because ALL the cars are fast and we all bought them because at heart we love the Hp. In short ..winning isn't everything .
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04-06-2010 | 03:51 PM
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Couldn't resist!
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04-06-2010 | 03:52 PM
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Right, after you get a fast car you immediately lock it in the garage and never drive it, so it would remain fast.
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04-06-2010 | 04:31 PM
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i agree cattman - its just about seeing the capabilities of your car versus stock turbos...id like to see my 2010 pdk car with launch control versus a stock 996 turbo...i bet i can take him to 100..after that the extra turbo ponies will take over
no chance versus a 997 turbo...
no chance versus a 997 turbo...
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04-06-2010 | 04:38 PM
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I expect that most TT owners feel the same about not having to prove themselves as much as we non TT Porsche drivers feel about not having to prove ourselves with Nissan/Toyota/Honda drivers who want to test us at a stoplight. There is really no point to it.
But I understand Cattman's desire for a real life comparison. It is just curiosity, not an ego thing.
But I understand Cattman's desire for a real life comparison. It is just curiosity, not an ego thing.