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Old 05-08-2010, 04:10 AM
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Originally Posted by adias
If you drive twisty roads with tight turns, and turn the wheel 180deg or more... the paddles are reversed and it's confusing. Never confusing with dual, redundant, buttons. Choice is good! But paddles are not necessarily better.
This might be a first, not sure, but I agree adias .

I never thought I would get a 911 without a "traditional" manual, bit I did. Then I thought the PDK buttons would be another hurdle to overcome. I was wrong again.

I simply can't get over how much I like them and have absolutely no desire to mod to the paddles.

I will probably be upgrading my steering wheel to add the multifunction, but not the paddles.
 
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I like the design and redundancy of the buttons and have never accidentally shifted.

I don't think either is a must though, just a matter of preference.
 
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Originally Posted by stevepow
I like the design and redundancy of the buttons and have never accidentally shifted.

I don't think either is a must though, just a matter of preference.
ok....I probably am really enthused about the paddles.. they are a must for me . I enjoyed the buttons for daily driving... but i did however find them a little backward in the shifting. In hard braking I wanted to push them forward to downshift....
 
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I think that the original PAG design makes sense. Unconventional? Perhaps, but PAG is often unconventional. In any case, there's a choice now, pick the one you like.
 

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rather get makassar wheel than paddles...i actually love the buttons..didnt think i would but i do...shift with either hand up or down..makes sense...zero interest in paddles..rather add wood to my interior
 
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I believe that most who have the paddles have driven both setups .
Who (on this thread) who opposes the paddles has driven them ? If so how many miles or hours ?

It's one thing to be content with buttons and quite another to go beyond it and oppose the paddles --especially since now Porsche offers both , and so do most of the other double clutch manufacturers.
 
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Originally Posted by yrralis1
I believe that most who have the paddles have driven both setups .
Who (on this thread) who opposes the paddles has driven them ? If so how many miles or hours ?

It's one thing to be content with buttons and quite another to go beyond it and oppose the paddles --especially since now Porsche offers both , and so do most of the other double clutch manufacturers.
I've driven a BMW on tight twisty roads and did not like the constant L/R reversing of the paddles' position.
 
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Originally Posted by doug2255
This might be a first, not sure, but I agree adias .

I never thought I would get a 911 without a "traditional" manual, bit I did. Then I thought the PDK buttons would be another hurdle to overcome. I was wrong again.

I simply can't get over how much I like them and have absolutely no desire to mod to the paddles.

I will probably be upgrading my steering wheel to add the multifunction, but not the paddles.
I'm in this camp too. Although - aesthetically, I may like the look of the wheel that comes with paddles more. Good thing we have choices - both are great..
 
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Originally Posted by adias
But... with PDK you may trail brake and shift at the apex and for that buttons are priceless.

People bumping into buttons do not have proper steering wheel holding technique. I never accidentally shift (up or down) w/ the buttons. Any tool can be learned and used properly.
Totally have to disagree with you here and PSDS instructors along with other top drivers/coaches and I have had this conversation. Did you read what Walter Rohl also said about the buttons?

You do not shift gears at the apex in a hair pin/tight turn. Trailbraking or not. You get you gear selection done before that and most of your braking done before turn in. You do not trail brake every turn....it truely depends on the turn.

Proper steering wheel holding technique is 3 and 9 with your thumbs on the spoke of the wheel and you pull down on the wheel to turn. The buttons are in the way of proper steering wheel technique and it is easy to upshift the car with the meat of your hand by the inside of your thumb.
 
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I like and understand the concept of switches but to me paddles have more of the FUN FACTOR. Plus I think the paddle wheel looks nicer.
 
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... Plus I think the paddle wheel looks nicer.
If you like a Mustang wheel that is, as that wheel seems straight from the Mustang parts bin.

 

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100% agreed
 
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Originally Posted by adias
If you like a Mustang wheel that is, as that wheel seems straight from the Mustang parts bin.
Ouch, that stung a bit

Tells you how truly ugly the switch wheel is with that awful Volcano Gray plastic trim. I'd rather have a Ford replica. Now, replace the plastic with leather, add multifunction, heat and paddles. That would make me happy
 
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I agree the paddles are better

Originally Posted by yrralis1
I believe that most who have the paddles have driven both setups .
Who (on this thread) who opposes the paddles has driven them ? If so how many miles or hours ?

It's one thing to be content with buttons and quite another to go beyond it and oppose the paddles --especially since now Porsche offers both , and so do most of the other double clutch manufacturers.
but I've gotten so used to the buttons that I'm not sure I would spend the 1k to change the set up. If I would have had the option in the beginning I would have chosen the paddles hands down.
 
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Originally Posted by yrralis1
I believe that most who have the paddles have driven both setups .
Who (on this thread) who opposes the paddles has driven them ? If so how many miles or hours ?

It's one thing to be content with buttons and quite another to go beyond it and oppose the paddles --especially since now Porsche offers both , and so do most of the other double clutch manufacturers.
Very true Larry. I kept my stock PDK buttons wheel just in case I did not like the paddles. I have 4 track days with paddles now and do not see myself going back to the push pull buttons.
 


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